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Originally posted by EddieZilker 2006 is as far back as the narrative mythology goes. On January 1, 2012, that will change to 2007. Something about five years being the maximum historical retention the average Ron Paul voter is capable of holding. Still, better than Herman Cain's 3 year window.

haha yeah, probably. i've already shown on this forum repeatedly that the massive increase in deficit spending is due to tax cuts (and the wars) and not some spend-a-thon on "socialist" government entitlements.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN from the second to last link http://www.usgovernmentspending.com...Sp_F0xF0fF0sF0l where's this massive increase?

I suppose you are right; really, what's the difference between 1 trillion and 2 trillion anymore?

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT I suppose you are right; really, what's the difference between 1 trillion and 2 trillion anymore?

well i looked through those links and i couldn't find what i had asked for; sure we can point to the stimulus and TARP as a definitive increase for specific purposes, but i thought you deficit hawks were referring to something else?

transarmstrong for instance completely ignores the real spending elephant in the room, the medicaid prescription drug subsidy bill, but that was actually signed in 2003.

i dunno, it has seemed to me over the last several years that the increase in deficits has implied to lazy people that there's been a corresponding increase in spending, but i am unaware on what that spending has been for.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well i looked through those links and i couldn't find what i had asked for

Didn't you ask what the money was spent on? Every single one of those links will show you what money was spent on. In addition, they show increases in spending from 2006, which was the year you were using as a benchmark.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Didn't you ask what the money was spent on? Every single one of those links will show you what money was spent on. In addition, they show increases in spending from 2006, which was the year you were using as a benchmark.

The point you seem to be missing is that there is a huge chunk of history constituting those expenditures.

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I bring up 2006 because I had just assumed people were offering critiques of the Paul budget plan because they had followed the links in the OP and actually skimmed the plan itself.

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The Ron Paul budget plan Cuts $1 trillion in spending during the first year of Ron Paul’s presidency, eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education), abolishing the Transportation Security Administration and returning responsibility for security to private property owners, abolishing corporate subsidies, stopping foreign aid, ending foreign wars, and returning most other spending to 2006 levels.

Rolling blackouts? Enlighten me, I was 12. I like to have my beliefs challenged and shaken up a bit. WTF do I know about state energy policy? Is it even a president's place to intervene?

George Bush's Medicare prescription drug subsidy is routinely bashed by Paul in media appearances fwiw.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker The point you seem to be missing is that there is a huge chunk of history constituting those expenditures.

But this does not invalidate anything that I have posted. He asked whether there really was an increase in spending since 2006 and on what. I provided links that show 1) There has been an increase in spending, and 2) What the money was spent on.

I'm starting to feel like you are arguing with me for the hell of it.

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong Rolling blackouts? Enlighten me, I was 12. I like to have my beliefs challenged and shaken up a bit. WTF do I know about state energy policy? Is it even a president's place to intervene?

You're espousing some very radical ideas for such an ignorant person.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Didn't you ask what the money was spent on? Every single one of those links will show you what money was spent on. In addition, they show increases in spending from 2006, which was the year you were using as a benchmark.

what i was asking for was a estimation of the increase in real spending since 2006. i couldnt find it, sorry.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT I'm starting to feel like you are arguing with me for the hell of it.

I'm simply pointing to where you and others like you are taking events out of historical context to reframe them to suit your arguments; heavily reliant on a historically inaccurate narrative.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what i was asking for was a estimation of the increase in real spending since 2006. i couldnt find it, sorry.

Interesting.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I'm simply pointing to where you and others like you are taking events out of historical context to reframe them to suit your arguments; heavily reliant on a historically inaccurate narrative.

I posted links with data and information that show and explain what money was spent on and how much. What on earth are you talking about?