lack of rewire's a deal breaker for me

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Seems definitely like a nice toy.

Imo a good move would be to offer the first version for free. It'd be a great promotional trick that would draw tons of attention at it.

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The thing is finally out! They've uploaded some great teasers on their yt channel.

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Initial thoughts after an hour of playing around...

THE BAD

I've crashed the audio engine a few times already. Stability is not great.

CPU usage is 10-15% higher than Ableton.

Memory usage is more than double Ableton.

Lots of (important) buttons are way too small.

It looks like everything is written in Java ( ), except for the realtime bits that live in a separate process. Subsequently...

- It will always use a fuck load of RAM (I'm getting about half a gig on idle).
- The UI will always be kind of sluggish (all Java UI frameworks are very heavy).
- Retina support will probably never happen.

My guess is memory consumption and UI speed will probably improve if they start developing against Oracle Java on Mac instead of the shitty Apple version, which is actually no longer actively maintained!

THE GOOD

Containers are fucking amazeballs. I've only used the M/S container so far, but that blew my mindgrapes; I've bought a lot of plugins purely for M/S support and this made them redundant.

Mixing mode is awesome. A nice change from the terrible metering in Ableton.

Split clip/arrange view is even more awesome than expected.

Lot's of really innovative ideas, but I don't think I'll be switching to it.

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Last edited by echosystm on Mar-26-2014 at 22:52

Just glancing over the comments at KVR, Bitwig seems like a big 'ol crashfest for a lot of people. How the hell can a DAW that has taken this long to come to market and go through such a lengthy beta process be so unstable?

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i'm already sold but it's gonna be a couple years till I dive in, and it'll be on a linux machine

It must be a fucking mare to get a DAW stable on the zillion different configurations out there

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FYI - Bitwig Studio is on sale for $299/€259 through January 15.

http://www.bitwig.com/en/shop/shop.html

Even cheaper at jrrshop ($254)

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Originally posted by cryophonik FYI - Bitwig Studio is on sale for $299/€259 through January 15. http://www.bitwig.com/en/shop/shop.html Even cheaper at jrrshop ($254)

If i was starting again id probably go with Bitwig but ive invested too much money in Live at this stage

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Just tried the demo and I'm sold. The arrange window feels intuitive and deep. The color palette on the right is very easy to sort instead of right clicking or menu dragging like in logic. The whole process of making a track feels fun, reminds of the sequencer in that old playstation 1 game where you can make dance music, the memories. Its absolutely stable for me and I'm on mac so memory usage is not a problem. My 02.

Before I didn't take this company and daw seriously so totally ignored the thread, my regrets.

Ok Paulino, make us dream now with some crazy trance banger.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

What are your thoughts on it? Like it?