Ah, so now you're going to split semantic hairs about what "arguing" means?

You may think you're arguing with me, but in reality all you're doing is making yourself look like a fucking moron.

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Also nice deflection. I asked you a question you fucking tool.

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Originally posted by itsamemario You're fucking delusional. Who exactly am I arguing with here, except you?

It's film in Ireland as well, and I would suppose you're arguing with everyone who is disagreeing with you. If you can't find your own answer based on their responses, then it appears that you are the delusional one here.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

I feel like it's the same as referring to records as "vinyl"

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Originally posted by itsamemario I'm pulling a big blank on "NA cinema", so I'm gonna await commenting until you can elaborate, cus I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with native americans. While the terms film and movie, came about independently, and initially had the same meaning, they are terms that have evolved as to more clearly describe what type of cinema you are watching. And these are the terms used by those that discuss movies on a professional level. I don't give a fuck about what terms Joe Bloggs use, as Joe Bloggs is always ignorant and wrong.

North America. Again nothing you say is wrong except when applied outside of north america. The term doesn't exist. And you are having a discussion with people that are from are not from north america.

I also think you will find the word film used in academic circles because that is term that would translate among all english speaking nations ie the correct term. movie is american vernacular. You don't use slang in academic texts.

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Not to mention that this distinction between "low art" (movies) which is primarily entertaining and "high art" (films) that should make you think is fucking useless these days. And I'm not talking about Lady Gaga's approach to this. Some films, like Verhoeven's, use straight up B-movie aesthetics yet if you "turn your brain off" you're probably going to miss a lot of what's going on there. On the other hand, some arthouse films can look sophisticated if they use enough long shots and their narration is "emptied", but there actually may be nothing worth examining under this surface.

Or perhaps the correct argument should be that some art/avant-garde films can also be simply entertaining.

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Originally posted by itsamemario In Norwegian, the word Kino can be used to refer to both the movie theatre and the type of motion picture, as in the term "kino-film".

Source? Kino is short for "kinematograf" and is just the place where the movie is shown. If a movie is a "kino-film" that probably only means that it's been shown at the theatre and didn't go directly to dvd. I've never heard anyone use the term so I wouldn't know. Where in Norway are you from?

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by Redd Source? Kino is short for "kinematograf" and is just the place where the movie is shown. If a movie is a "kino-film" that probably only means that it's been shown at the theatre and didn't go directly to dvd. I've never heard anyone use the term so I wouldn't know. Where in Norway are you from?

Oslo represent.

"kino-film" means a type of movie that you go see at a cinema, ie movie with popcorn and i know loads of people who uses this term in this way.. Might be a østlands-specific term if you haven't heard it in Bergen.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney North America. Again nothing you say is wrong except when applied outside of north america. The term doesn't exist. And you are having a discussion with people that are from are not from north america. I also think you will find the word film used in academic circles because that is term that would translate among all english speaking nations ie the correct term. movie is american vernacular. You don't use slang in academic texts.

Ok, maybe I was thinking of elitist movie reviewer forums, then! :P

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Originally posted by Adam420 I feel like it's the same as referring to records as "vinyl"

I'd argue it's more like when to use 'track' and 'song', or something along those lines

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Originally posted by itsamemario Oslo represent. "kino-film" means a type of movie that you go see at a cinema, ie movie with popcorn and i know loads of people who uses this term in this way.. Might be a østlands-specific term if you haven't heard it in Bergen.

I think I see what you mean. I guess I use the same expression, but it's not related to what you're arguing about here (the difference between movie and film). A "kino-film" is a movie with cinematography best viewed in a theatre, not necessarily a movie that makes you think. Like the movie Battleship. It's just action with a lot of eye-candy, fast action and effects. Same with Transformers.

I would still argue we only have the word "film" for movies though.

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