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jayxthekoolest
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Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Everybody seems to love DnB but it's true that there's no reflection in the popularity polls. I like netsky as a producer, listened to a set from him and it was a bit boring but overall well deserved entry.

The amount of hardstyle djs amazes me, didn't know it was so popular.


agree with netsky. i really love his track 'Memory Lane", but when i heard his set on electric area I was surprised at how much I didn't like it

as for hard style, i think it's popular because it's very easy to listen to when you first start listening to music. i think the first edm i listened was dj scooter. i don't like now, but that first year of listening to music when you're young...hardstyle etc are easy to listen to and enjoy

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Rodri Santos
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well hardcore is more listeneable than hardstyle, hardcore is the new eurodance a lot of people love it, in fact when a dj drops a few hardcore tunes the energy of the floor rises incredibly, for long people start leaving but all crowds stand it for some minutes.

As for hardstyle... the distorted kick is something that does not get on well with all people, i quite like wasted penguinz i even considered attending Klimax to try something different.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
well hardcore is more listeneable than hardstyle, hardcore is the new eurodance a lot of people love it, in fact when a dj drops a few hardcore tunes the energy of the floor rises incredibly, for long people start leaving but all crowds stand it for some minutes.


Hardcore is the new eurodance? Okay, I really am getting old.

Did notice 149. Evil Activities.


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Rodri Santos
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Take this for example, lyrics are in italian but i've listened to it in Spain, Italy (ofc) and Germany so imagine how popular it is...



What's the difference with eurodance? a bit faster i don't see any evident difference...

I can guarantee you that kids listen to this and tracks by Italobrothers,manian,dj gollum... that stuff

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I just wonder how DJ Mag are going to continue justifying these acts in their little write-ups for each entry. Do they actually cover these kind of names? It must look pretty fucking incongruous if they don't.


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Skrillex is both on the top guitar list and dj. Nice.


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do they even dj? doesnt they play heavy metal live now?

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rdevito
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43. Infected Mushroom

do they even dj? doesnt they play heavy metal live now?


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After thinking about it a bit more, the reason why I dislike polls like DJmag's is because it's pure media logic in action.

What they're always trying to do is turn everything into a competition, even if it's clearly irrelevant. The way the actual dance music industry should work is to have scenes with like-minded people, bound either by location or musical preference. Who, unlike with politics for instance, should really have nothing to do with each other. There is no battle for absolute artistic supremacy, only journalists who are trying to justify their position as leaders of opinion, their relevance. We're all playing by their rules after all.
What you eventually get is that their lists become self fulfilling prophecies. The results of this poll and mainly it's top spots will be copied by other media without a slither of scepticism, leading to an increase in fame for those who managed to attain the top spots solidifying their positions even more. Which is why we see the top ten barely changing at all from year to year.

Now, if it turns out there was no legitimacy to their ranking in the first place, which is clearly the case since it can only ever be a representation of a small group of people's preferences (i.e. the people who know of the poll's existence and could be bothered to vote), you get a thoroughly fucked up situation.

So who actually is the top DJ or most popular DJ? It's all dry statistics. You would have to measure bookings and show attendees, album and single sales, prevalence in media from all over the world to get anything remotely accurate. Or you'd have to ask every single person in the world. It's not going to happen, just let it go. The scene would get much healthier if the whole globalist megalomania would end and DJ's would have to rely on word to word or local journalistic promotion. Actual talent would rise to the top rather then PR expertise. But that's just dreaming I guess.


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quote:
Originally posted by Bierheld
After thinking about it a bit more, the reason why I dislike polls like DJmag's is because it's pure media logic in action.

What they're always trying to do is turn everything into a competition, even if it's clearly irrelevant. The way the actual dance music industry should work is to have scenes with like-minded people, bound either by location or musical preference. Who, unlike with politics for instance, should really have nothing to do with each other. There is no battle for absolute artistic supremacy, only journalists who are trying to justify their position as leaders of opinion, their relevance. We're all playing by their rules after all.
What you eventually get is that their lists become self fulfilling prophecies. The results of this poll and mainly it's top spots will be copied by other media without a slither of scepticism, leading to an increase in fame for those who managed to attain the top spots solidifying their positions even more. Which is why we see the top ten barely changing at all from year to year.

Now, if it turns out there was no legitimacy to their ranking in the first place, which is clearly the case since it can only ever be a representation of a small group of people's preferences (i.e. the people who know of the poll's existence and could be bothered to vote), you get a thoroughly fucked up situation.

So who actually is the top DJ or most popular DJ? It's all dry statistics. You would have to measure bookings and show attendees, album and single sales, prevalence in media from all over the world to get anything remotely accurate. Or you'd have to ask every single person in the world. It's not going to happen, just let it go. The scene would get much healthier if the whole globalist megalomania would end and DJ's would have to rely on word to word or local journalistic promotion. Actual talent would rise to the top rather then PR expertise. But that's just dreaming I guess.


Well phucking said.


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Fledz
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Hear hear, Bierheld. Going to point your quote out to a few other people.


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I don't care about the list, but Swedish house mafia isn't in the top ten?

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