I long for the days when producers were faceless and never released anything under their real name. Only the music mattered.
Dec-11-2014 08:43
Richard Butler
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London
quote:
Originally posted by deegee
Same with, say, TV cooking show hosts. The days of sweaty and frumpy Mario Batali and Julia Child are over--you have to be TV-acceptable now.
Must me an American thang, in the UK loads of uglies are becoming successful on TV, in music etc.
Just about the most successful TV chefs here are 'The Hairy Bikers' who are a pair of bloaters.
A lot of English people consider 'perfect' looking people to be quite plastic and too deliberate and self regarding. A turn off. Understatement and lack of yearning for attention are far more endearing qualities.
Nothing cooler than a millionaire that looks like a scruff.
Last edited by Richard Butler on Dec-11-2014 at 15:05
Dec-11-2014 14:56
deegee
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
Note the flag next to my name
But yeah, I should have clarified... the Two Fat Ladies were immensely popular over here, but never would have been given a show in North America, I think.
Dec-11-2014 17:40
johncannons1
JDC - J Cannons
Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Yeah mate!
Just with work Monday to Friday I can never work on music during the week but spend most weekends on it.
I am releasing stuff with Vicious at the moment under my house alias but with time I haven't been working on too many trance songs unfortunately.
I found that with Vicious records they do promo really well but it just takes so long to build your brand!
You still releasing stuff?
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quote:
Originally posted by davedresden
it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career
I have nothing to share specifically really, just this cliche.
Dec-11-2014 21:49
meriter
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Registered: May 2009
Location:
youtube gets shittier with every update but I think a devoted music section with a genre-specific ranking system similar to NicoNicoDouga would be swell. Of course you could just buy youtube plays so that whole idea kinda falls apart. Nothing really preventing the garbage from floating to the top. I suspect thats whats going on with beatport, labels just throw money at them to get releases on the top 10 regardless of actual sales. Might be wrong though i'm a bit of a conspiracy nut
Dec-11-2014 22:03
Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
quote:
Originally posted by sonix
That actually did happen or still does and Beatport released a news statement saying they're preventing that by banning labels when Beatport sees the same IP buying mass quantities of the same track.
There are sites that pay people to buy tracks. They have labels as clients.
Also that Beatport banned site is very unreliable. It is a nice gimmick but a lot of the tracks mentioned disappear due to new (sub)licensing deals which affect availability.
If less is more think about how much more more would be.
-Frasier
Dec-11-2014 23:00
zodiac9
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Over the past year I submitted an EP to several labels, no takers. One said it wasn't the style they were looking for, the other didn't reply. The label I'm "with" rejected my last 2 EPs, so I'm batting zero. They are way pickier about style than they used to be, and that's fine.
Every label release I've gotten has been through producer friend recommendation, and interaction on this forum. The scant few demos I've submitted to labels over the years didn't get me one release.
I've sent demos to several DJs via soundcloud, no listens. They asked via their sets to send demos. Both have record labels, so if you get a spin you will most likely get a signed release.
I think I'm done with submitting tracks to labels. I've never had any luck with it, it's a time waster.
I will still send demos to DJs. A spin would mean a lot more to me than a label release.
Originally posted by sonix
Wait, they pay you to buy tracks you're gonna buy anyways? I want that job, buying tracks and getting paid for it like a discount and get free music lol
Yep...
quote:
Hi!
We are glad to invite you in our BeatportPromo team. Everything is very simple:
1. You download tracks in the task from Beatport, or other shops.
2. We pay you for this.
Your invitation code: ***
If less is more think about how much more more would be.
-Frasier
Dec-15-2014 06:35
Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
If someone does it smart it is going to be really hard. But the most vital thing is to distinguish automated transactions from human ones.
A human will not buy the same track twice, especially not soon after a release. If it happens it is likely to have rather big time span in between or they buy the same track which have been uploaded as seperate releases, thus not hyping one single track.
A human will not have multiple accounts connected to one email, paypal account or creditcard. A human will not create a bulk of transactions on the same track (which is a must to get it in the charts).
A human will send regular header and cookie information on every request.
Plus Beatport has a huge dataset of trusted and validated transactions which they can use to analyze certain transactions (or patterns) as suspicious and manually/automatically validate if needed.
This is just scratching the surface. They have some smart people working there at Beatport. One of them is now my collegue and another one used to be for a short while .
It is not anything I worry about though. Chart juicing/hyping or whatever they call it isn't really a thing I am interested in persuing . I am mostly interested in the the dynamics and implications of said tools, and how much influence they might have.
. I am mostly interested in the the dynamics and implications of said tools, and how much influence they might have.
