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Originally posted by Furel but sometimes you guys act bad... My country sux in many ways too, the difference is we admit it!

Yes, I'm sure all Brazilians run around going on about how badly their country sucks.

Kirbtastic, don't ever try to say anything pro-United States here, unfortunately you will just end up getting flamed to no end. No matter how much you try to defend yourself, or how many valid points you make, it just doesn't fly.

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance Yes, I'm sure all Brazilians run around going on about how badly their country sucks.

Man, I dont go around saying: BRAZIL SUCKS Y'ALL! Cause it is not like that... The thing is, when someone say or asks me like: is there corruption etc, I dont answer: hmm... we won the world cup! I say, yes there is... You guys just dont... Many people here have said true things about your foreing policy that you just refuse to admit it, instead, you say something diferent... go trhu the posts and youll see what im talking about... Actually, just read my post and what you wrote about it... what was your point anyway?

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You were making yourself look like such a selfless, problem-admitting nation that everybody just ran around saying that your country was full of problems and not looking at anything from a biased perspective.

I admit that a large majority if American foreign policy has very serious flaws. I admit that the US media broadcasts what it is told to broadcast.

I'm not saying the US is better than anyone or anything to that effect. I'm just saying don't go putting your country on such a high horse, because we all know that everybody backs their own country blindly to a point.

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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer ill put up an award to any pakistani that kills the american that wrote that crap.

Igorance running amok again, an Austrailian wrote that, and it was brilliant. Still is.

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Originally posted by kirbtastic flame away fellas..the truth is we are the number 1 world power these days because we protect our interests...every world power has done it since the beginning of civilazation...Britain did it before us, but instead of oil, u did it for coal and spices.

and the arab world doesn't protect it's interest. You act like America is the only nation in the world that protects it's interest, bah. Why do you think Reagan cut a deal with the Arabs in 1980 to stop solar power research amoung other things, cause solar power was a threat to the arab way of life. Without oil, the arabs are nothing, and they know this. Solar power could eliminate the need for oil & so forth.

Without oil as an obsticle, we could fight the war on terror unchecked.

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Threads like this make me sick.

Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed.

If you don't believe me, take some American government classes at your local college. Oh wait, you don't have a local college, that's right, well, instead of blaming your own government, lets just blame Americans and their import/exports right?!?

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed.

What exactly make the US goverment better the the Danish goverment or any other goverment for that matter?

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Originally posted by joeh152 The point is, your doing it now, in this modern age - not 100 or 200 years ago. But again, you still call them indians, whilst the rest of the world calls them 'native americans', you call them indians. Do you seriously belive that all the people who colonised America, the europeans, then left to go back home and a peaceful lot came along to start america???? It may well have been your ancestors who came along and did all that, then stayed to start america. You said that hitler killed Americans, and Hitler wasn't in charge of the Japanese military in world war one, did you even do history at school? Is this some magical 'comeback'??? I'm not even russian so I’m not sure if this is supposed to offend me? again, the point is, mate, that you are still at it in these modern times - when most other countries saw the error of their way 100 years ago. Never mind that you cause these countries to be poor in the first place?? - how?? Well if these countries start to export any products that america makes - you put quotas on them - destroying their export business - making them poor etc. Kirbtastic, you are constantly trying to start up flame wars, you are constantly wrong, so why don’t you just stop??

Actually America does it for the rest of the western world as well, if we didn't what European power would stand for western interests. European societies would stand to lose a lot if Americans stop standing up for their own & western interests.

What countries saw the error of their ways a 100 years ago... Germany didn't, & fought 2 world wars, Japan didn't, the Soviet Union didn't and had the purges... Heck Russia had 3 governments in a century. The Chinese didn't learn a thing, they still kill babies on a regular basis.

Was there something to be learned from WWII, the errors of the French way... Yes, unfortunately no one understands what should have been learned from WWII. That international threats should be dealt with before they get too extreme. On September in 1939, France should have invaded Germany, when Germany invaded Poland. Heck, they declared war, but they didn't invade. Why not? This is the thing I learned from WWII. Other world leaders have learned from French ineptitude. It seems the French will only fight a war until enemy troops come marching into France. LOL Although lately, with the way the French stand on international affairs, I dont think they would fight even with enemy troops marching into France, they'd probably just cower & surrender without a fight.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Threads like this make me sick. Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed. If you don't believe me, take some American government classes at your local college. Oh wait, you don't have a local college, that's right, well, instead of blaming your own government, lets just blame Americans and their import/exports right?!?

haha american colleges, most of your imports come from overseas don't they? and you've got the best educated Americans in the world?
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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Threads like this make me sick. Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed. If you don't believe me, take some American government classes at your local college. Oh wait, you don't have a local college, that's right, well, instead of blaming your own government, lets just blame Americans and their import/exports right?!?

I dont think the American government is the best government par se, we have corruption here just like everyone else. I disagree with my government on many things, drug laws, economic policy, taxes, social service cutbacks, etc.

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Originally posted by joeh152 Your tv shows are crap, your media is heavily biased, etc, etc.

TV shows, yeah they do suck. The media is of course biased, this is a given in every nation, doubly so in dictatorships. Think before stating the obvious.

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Igorance running amok again, an Austrailian wrote that, and it was brilliant. Still is.

Perhaps you should learn how to read before you start calling people "ignorant" champ.

The article was written by an American professor. I can post that link again if you like, seeing as you must have missed it the first time.

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Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed.

Apart from the human rights abuses, the economic mismanagement, the complete contempt for the environment and the blatant ignorance of anything foreign? Oh yeah, apart from that (and the bumbling speaches) Bush and the guys holding his strings are doing a great job.

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If you don't believe me, take some American government classes at your local college. Oh wait, you don't have a local college, that's right, well, instead of blaming your own government, lets just blame Americans and their import/exports right?!?

Apart from presenting a hackneyed, slightly mystifying argument attempting to harpoon anti-globalism, what exactly are you trying to say there? That somehow everyone outside of the US just sits around blaming everything that goes wrong in their lives on the US government? That we don't have colleges in the rest of the world? Something else entirely?

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