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Originally posted by Izzy that still doesnt make sense. techincally, yes, whether it is their excuse or not if america goes to war with iraq they would be liberating the civlians from dictatoriship rule. whether other places exsist that need liberation agian is irrelevant.

Why is it "irrelevent"???? BECUASE THEY HAVE NO OIL!!!!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Why is it "irrelevent"???? BECUASE THEY HAVE NO OIL!!!!

I find it rather hard to stomach that the U.S. would spend billions of dollars deploying its armies in order to procure a resource that in five years will not be worth half what it is today, and within a decade may be worth nothing at all.

The more logical explanation is that George W. Bush simply wants an enemy - any enemy - to serve as a punching bag for the might of the U.S. military, in hopes that the domination that results will make America feel more tough, and therefore, more secure. For this purpose, it is easier for Bush to pick a familiar enemy, such as Hussein, who most of the American public already knows enough about, than to try to rally support for a war against some other leader who 95% of the population has never heard of.

Regardless of the drab reality that Bush and his cohorts probably don't have a very good idea how to rebuild Iraq properly, if they even care, it remains true that this war is the necessary first step towards achieving the only acceptable outcome.

In actuality, however, the United States has far more to gain by making Iraq a prosperous nation than it does by instituting some form of primitive mercantilism - just look at the brilliant symbiosis between the United States and Japan. The only question, is whether the shortsightedness of our government will choose to decline the opportunity to make this very wise and very just investment.

Yeah think the same. SH is somewhat an easy target and Bush needs a success or else he will look even dumber than he is with the time.

He obviously failed to clearly bring OVBL to justice as he mentioned he will do. So before the public has the time to think about all that and raise questions he focuses on a somewhat created bigtime enemy who is relativly easy to hunt down.

I dont think its really all about the oil, the government just needs something to prove, they desperately need a success before people start questionning where OBL is or why the economy goes down. And honestly: Which terrorist-like thread is easier to hunt down than Iraq and Saddam Hussein??? All those terrorist networks are very hard to find and destroy because they are not states, just some groups with members from different countries. North Korea who is running its mouth badly th elast several weeks is obviously a bigger thread 1on1 because they HAVE nuclear bombs and they seem to have an even crazier president than Iraq. To start a fight agianst another country like Iran, Syria or whatever the govt. would need to put down much better "proof" to convince the american folk than its needed to convince them about Iraq, which is an old known enemy. IMO Iraq is not even in the Top5 of the biggest thread and so seem to think others. No with this circumstances that the world is not united like against Afghanistan, should really by careful what they do. They could go alone and would win against Iraq, thats not the point. The point here is that now its the time for the USA to decide if they wanna go the rest of the waym alone and isolate themselves or if they want to take every step needed to keep the alliance against terror intact. You (as americans) can win this battle (Iraq) alone, but you cant win the war (against terror) this way.

With this government in action I just hope the debate will go on for a while just until election day and the govt. will be hopefully shown the door.

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