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Originally posted by Eugene Yeah, now imagine what would happen if not a single guy approached you in a long while. You'd probably start complaining that you can't "get noticed." And you'd probably be pretty lonely too (although not necessarily). I know girls who complain that guys never come up to them, they feel lonely and are sad that they just can't get noticed. And these girls are pretty, there is nothing weird or bad about them, they dress in style, they're cute, and friendly.

So she should give every guy who approaches her 10 minutes of her time as a mark of respect for those girls not as popular as her?

It's not like girls go out with the express purpose of meeting you. It's other peoples time you're imposing on. At the end of the day go ahead and try, but if somebody's not interested don't get all high & mighty about it.

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Vesa, CynepMeH, great posts! A lot of that stuff is common sense, but needs constant reinforcement for someone like me. Plus, it was all written really really well guys, nice one. I might read a couple more times..

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Originally posted by Vesa Many good advice above. Dunno if there's much to add, but let's try. However, I must forewarn that I try to chat up women only at nightclubs because I need to get them to bed really fast. Otherwise they have time to notice that I'm a moron, and don't want anything to do with me So in your situation I wouldn't have even considered talking to her 'cause it's too small odds of success compared to the stigma one gets (breaking the rule of not talking to strangers at broad daylight) When you arrive and sit down at the table, immediately say in a moderately loud, completely neutral, manly, very mildly dominant, all business voice: "Hi!" or "Hi! How are we doing here?" You may now ask: what if she doesn't realize that you're talking to her. Not likely. Women have excellent peripheral vision so she has probably seen you approach just an eyeblink earlier. 1) No response -> She's not interested, forget it. 2) A one or two word response with a bored voice -> ditto ("Reading!" and "Fuck Off!" are typical responses in this category ) 3) A short response with a normal voice -> Proceed with another question to test her level of interest: "What are you reading?" If she warms up, and gives a longer response -> Proceed to 4. If normal voice and short answer -> Say just "Oh!" You may have too bad odds of success, so ignore her completely and start talking to your mates. In the small chance that she WAS interested but not talkative, ignoring her makes her think she screwed it, and she'll throw herself at you at the next school party. 4) An enthusiastic girly voice, and submissive body language like warm eye contact, smiling, exposing breasts, or coy look with a half-smile and lowered chin -> Drop your mates and start talking to her with an enthusiastic moderately manly voice. Keep neutral face. Use body language like you were her computer instructor or something Talk about the upcoming school/university disco. Very casual topics. Thinking you are an instructor is meant to help you lose yourself in conversation and appear confident. But don't be a know-all, only on the same (high ) level as she, or occasionally one level up. If the vibes are great, during the conversation, make up an excuse in how you can help her with the disco, or simply after talking 5 minutes, say that it was funny talking. Tell her that next week you are going to the local trendy coffee shop to celebrate the end of your exam term (or whatever she can relate to). Take out your mobile, and say to her "Why don't you join me for it! Gimme your number, so I'll call you and we'll agree the time!" When you have the number, say "OK! I'll call you" and start talking to your mates, and ignore her. Possibly say "Laterz" when you leave, but not necessary. PS. I know that all guys know most of these lines without me telling. I posted them just for the sake of completeness.

Hey Vesa mate!! Your advice works great I read it yesterday and tested it today, WITH SUCCES!!
thx a lot, man!
Greetz,
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Originally posted by Rememberence_ werd @ this thread. Why is it made so hard! It's all the fault of the chicks I'm actually sitting next to this chick right now... fuck she's hot and she smells fantastic. It's pretty funny I'm typing all this about her and she hasn't a clue... it's also saddening that she doesn't know. argh.

LOLz. Hey if you are really from San Antone are you going to Acosta this next weekend??? Your flag is Australian it looks like.

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Originally posted by Muff2K i have a problem with people saying that a girl is their type just by looking at her. i dont know if a girl is my type until i talk to her, take her out, see her at home with family, undress her. man, there's been so many hot looking girls out there, and when you get teh balls to go up and talk to em, they sound like Grover from sesame street or smell like ass.

HAHahaha. Yeah I know man. When I was in highschool, there was this blonde cheerleader chick that was SO hot and she seemed to like me...
But she was so stupid......goddamn she was stupid....
There are so many FAKE people out there ughghhh! She kept talking about her hair and things like that when we were supposed to be discussing a book. She was a model in Seventeen Magazine BTW, but I don't know what issue or anything. I'm sure she will end up in some kind of Anna Nicole Smith situation.
Anyways I just didn't pay too much attention. Was that being mean??
I felt kinda bad.

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz HAHahaha. Yeah I know man. When I was in highschool, there was this blonde cheerleader chick that was SO hot and she seemed to like me... But she was so stupid......goddamn she was stupid.... There are so many FAKE people out there ughghhh! She kept talking about her hair and things like that when we were supposed to be discussing a book. She was a model in Seventeen Magazine BTW, but I don't know what issue or anything. I'm sure she will end up in some kind of Anna Nicole Smith situation. Anyways I just didn't pay too much attention. Was that being mean?? I felt kinda bad.

LOL.
But a lot of girls like to talk about their hair

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Hm I donno about being super-honest and open while chatting up. I, for example, once approached a girl I'd fancied for months (always saw her at this club and somehow suddenly had the guts to grab her arm and pull her aside) and anyway...I was saying what I was thinking and feeling and I'm not sure this was the cleverest idea: I told her how gorgeous she looks and how I hadnt been able to get her outta my mind for such a long time... bla bla... then she gives me a smile and says "yeah, but I got a bf, sorry..."
KABOOMM!!
I'm not saying my honesty screwed it up (she actually HAD a bf i saw afterwards ) but it wasn't really worth it either, it just made me more vulnerable. Pouring all your feelings out and getting a quick "sorry" respond is not nice at all. I could have gotten the same "results" with a less honest "Hi, I find you cute and would like to get to know you, would you like to go out and have a drink with me?" line.

Speaking of which I just found out that I need more praxis in the much more sophisticated "techno club dancefloor" approach. There was this girl dancing next to me and I recognized her cause Ive seen her at another, much more mainstream disco before. I scream into her ear "havent i seen you and your friend in club xyz before?" "yeah" "so..changed sides? " "yeah better atmosphere here"-> continues to dance. That's where I got insecure and she left with her friend. Argh! So, that's where persistence and clever ideas to small talk next to wild techno beats are probably the most vital aspects

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My question is, should you forget about the girls who don't give you a lot of eye contact/enthusiasm, and only go for those who openly send you signals?

Last nite I went to a club and there was one girl I'd seen before, somewhat cute. I casually walked up to her and her friends -- after having a shot of vodka, a glass of wine, and a beer - and introduced myself. We smiled and shook hands. Then I met her several times on the other floors of the club, tried having a "light" -- very light -- conversation but she would respond, smile, and then go somewhere else...

I think this describes 95% of what happens when you try to meet a girl! So is she not interested, and should you only chase the girls who send you signals? (eye contact, flirting..) ???

In other words, if you don't see clear signs of interest, should you forget it and move on? And do "clear signs of interest" even appear that often, even if you meet new girls every week?.. I think this is pretty rare and doesn't happen too often...

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Originally posted by Vesa Girls often tell by body language that they are not interested. Like arms in a crossed position or a worried facial expression.

Yep, I can confirm those exact two examples you mentioned first-hand, from personal experience!

Thanks for the post Vesa, always interesting to read your thoughts.

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