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According to Armin Van Buuren himself the rumours about the end of ASOT was not true at all! "ASOT WILL continue, your thursdaynight dancetreatment with the newest tunes selected" - Armin says.

From Ivibes.nu :http://www.ivibes.nu/index.php?article=1922

Asot will no stop!

i think l-vee is just going through a difficult period at the moment, what with his album being spread over the internet before it was even released and now the closure of bonzai. but he'll get over it, no doubt.. it is not possible that someone puts so many emotion into a track, when he's just in it for the money.. it's his passion, so i think he'll be back for sure!

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Originally posted by tor8024 it's his passion, so i think he'll be back for sure!

I agree, I don't think anyone can give up trance just like that.

i hope not, hes made so many excellent tracks

death to all bullshit rumours (ASOT and others)

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When are these bullshit claims that MP3's are the sole reason why the 'dance' industry is dying going to stop? The reason is simple, STOP PUTTING OUT SHIT MUSIC. 90% of ANY music genre simply sucks, why the fuck should I pay $20 for a CD with 1 or 2 songs I like? NO THANKS. As for Lightning Records, they had so many artists signed that they were releasing more shit than good. I blame nobody but Lightning records for their demise. They were more concerned with pumping out #'s and #'s of records in hopes of increasing sales rather than focusing on releasing GOOD records.

I have no problem buying music I like, but there's so much shit out there it's not funny and MP3's help avoid buying junk. So who is to blame? The artists for making shit music or the labels for pushing out shit music? One thing's for sure, the end user is not the one to blame.

I do however, have serious problems with people who make money selling MP3 cd's, that's the only case where MP3's hurt the industry. They're a free and widely acceptable promotion tool, and if you put out good music, people will buy it, as simple as that.

As for Mr. Airwave, yes he's a very good artist and one of my favorite producers, but even he releases his share of crap (latest Green Martian Remixes and such). I mean Wizardry is one of the best tunes out this year but then you look at Harmonic Minor and makes you say "Hmmm". Granted that you can't make a hit track everytime around, but atleast make an attempt at doing so, rather than throwing out mediocre tracks.

I honestly do hope that he doesn't call it quits. I can understand his anger because his album was 'released' weeks before going retail, but it's to be expected. The people that liked it bought it, the people that didn't, didn't. No harm done, unless some jackass decided to sell CDR copies of it. Other artists deal with it. All this talking about "he has to pay the bills like anybody else, bla bla bla", what will he do IF he quits? Why not do "this" from the start? Music should be more about the passion rather than making a quick buck, that's atleast the way I look at it. I think that L-Vee is just looking for someone or something to place blame at, so naturally it's directed at MP3's. Even before MP3s were even realized, people were bootlegging tapes and CDs. The MP3 format is just another medium for something that's been happening since forever.

Last edited by 8Wonders on Mar-14-2003 at 22:34

Here is what he said about mp3s in an interview on trance.nu:

Question: At the moment you can download almost every tune from the internet. What do you think about the mp3 format? And do you think you sell less records or cd's with mp3s existing?

Answer: MP3 is a good thing coz you don't have to see that as a rip off. People always get copies from records. The real thief is the teenager in his bedroom who makes copies of these for everybody. If you make a copy for yourself with no intention to sell it, you don't have to be considered as a thief coz music is universal and you have the right to listen to it though.

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Originally posted by Robert it's nice and all to say you're in it for the music, but it is, or was his job and at the end of the day he still has bills to pay. as for the whole mp3 situation, sure mp3s made him and bonzai big.. but it also killed it. the balance between mp3s and sales is way out of line.. just my thoughts anyway..

exactly. the guy obviously has to make a living off it, and his whole life revolves around the music; it's not a hobby that he does after school. And he's not making huge money like all them mainstream artists so he has every right to bitch.

As for whether mp3's are responsible; L-Vee doesn't do much DJ'ing. He's mainly known for being an artist, making singles on vinyl. I doubt he makes much from DJ'ing, so majority of his cash inflow is from selling his music. Sure, he wouldn't be as popular if it wasn't for MP3's but how does that pay for his rent? for his food? for his equipment?? he doesn't get a weekly check for being known by x number of people. MP3's aren't solely responsible for the demise of the industry, but they do play a factor in that.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH L-Vee doesn't do much DJ'ing. He's mainly known for being an artist, making singles on vinyl. I doubt he makes much from DJ'ing, so majority of his cash inflow is from selling his music. Sure, he wouldn't be as popular if it wasn't for MP3's but how does that pay for his rent? for his food? for his equipment?? he doesn't get a weekly check for being known by x number of people. MP3's aren't solely responsible for the demise of the industry, but they do play a factor in that.

I agree it won't pay his rent and all that
so maybe he should venture into doing gigs and such
If he's not making money putting out singles, then instead of quitting on a whole
why don't he produce and tour?
I think majority of trance artists makes most their money from gigs
I mean how wealthy would PvD be if he only relied on his releases?
With all the songs Vandit has held back, I don't think very

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Originally posted by DC- The reason is simple, STOP PUTTING OUT SHIT MUSIC.

I totally agree. If your music is good then you wouldnt be in this situation now would you? Lightning's been releasing quantity over quality. Airwave and Push amongst other artists should have stuck to their most successful aliases, e.g. Airwave, Cape Town, Fire & Ice, Lolo, Planisphere, Push, Plastic Boy, Exposure, Solar Factor. There you go; 5 aliases for Airwave and 4 for Push, as opposed to 30 for each.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH the guy obviously has to make a living off it

Trance is a hobby, not a job. If its your job then you should go back to school and get an education, because you wont get any farther in life than living with your parents. Thats the reality, trance is generally underground and you wont become a millionare from record sales like a boy band in the pop scene.

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Originally posted by Rakoon Trance is a hobby, not a job. If its your job then you should go back to school and get an education, because you wont get any farther in life than living with your parents. Thats the reality, trance is generally underground and you wont become a millionare from record sales like a boy band in the pop scene.

ive got to disagree with that
if you have to put in all your time and effort to dj and make tracks you dont have time to get a real job and you need to live off of something


and as for airwave
i hope to hell he doesnt quit he was one of the best producers ever

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Originally posted by dj tek i doubt he'll give up producing for good.. i mean, ppl with that much passion for music and can do it that well, i think its impossible for them to just quit cold turkey..

unless he's a commercial poser just in it for the money... (i.e., saying your quitting making music because of Mp3's tells me just that)
He's making music for the money, and he's quitting because the money coming in is running a bit thin these days. He has no real passion for music if he says stuff like that IMO.

"Oh, I'm gonna quit making music because of MP3..." Yeah, whatever, poser.

Sorry if I'm harsh, but I also feel that I'm realistic in my opinion on this, feel free to disagree. I hold no ill-will towards his productions at all.

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Originally posted by Rakoon Trance is a hobby, not a job. If its your job then you should go back to school and get an education, because you wont get any farther in life than living with your parents. Thats the reality, trance is generally underground and you wont become a millionare from record sales like a boy band in the pop scene.

Unfortuantely most trance producers cant make enough to leave their day jobs, but there are some. Trance may not be as profitable as rock or rap music, but in this regard I find trance a lot more respectable.

These people who will quit making trance because of MP3's have no business in the trance scene, (or any scene for that matter)... Cause they just told us point blank, we're making trance for the money, and we're quitting because it's not coming in like it used to. Feel free to like their music though, despite the fact it was just made for mucho dinero.

Edit : hopefully airwave is just throwing a tantrum, if he really does quit, then I'll have less respect for him than people like Puff Daddy.

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Protoculture, Circadians