I'm just posting this to put it out there:

The Iraqi Perspective

The Iraqi government daily Al-Thawra published an editorial titled "The Victory of Iraq... is a Victory for Mankind." The editorial stated:

"When the American president declares that his evil administration does not make its decisions under the [pressure of] mass demonstrations here and there, he is in fact contradicting the false democratic values which he glorifies in every opportunity in his statements and speeches which are based on lies and deception..."

"Having failed to convince the world about the real motives of the U.S.'s aggressive threats against Iraq, which represent [envy of] Iraq's oil and strategic position, the administration of evil has begun to reveal with all the conceit and haughtiness its readiness to take a unilateral decision."(6)

Saudi Perspective

The Saudi daily Al-Watan drew historical lessons from the Yalta conference which convened in 1945 "to divide the world according to a new map." Two of the three participants in Yalta, the United States and the United Kingdom, took part in the Azores summit. Spain replaced the Soviet Union as the third party. Al-Watan wrote in its editorial:

"The enormous failure of three 'axis of war countries' to extract a war resolution against Iraq has led them to convene a war council and [make] decisions under the banner of ridding the world of weapons of mass destruction. It means that the issue does not concern the three countries alone but the entire world. ...This style of managing world crises threatens world security and threatens world equilibrium when three countries make decisions and proceed without paying attention to the entire world and without giving peaceful efforts a greater chance to avoid the dangers of war."(10)

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Originally posted by fastmp3 americans are incapable of empathy because they never had a war in their territories , as simple as that ! maybe a second 9/11 will make them open their eyes

we have a war in our terrority right now, and it began on sept 11, 2001. our eyes were opened by the first 9/11 and god willing, there will never again be a second.

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Originally posted by Dj-HordasH Praise France for having the balls to speak out against the American oppression! I take my hat off to Chirac for so flagrantly denouncing this crime, and even though the majority of this planet sees eye to eye with him there are not many people who got the balls to speak out against Bush’s nazi regime. There you have a president who's got a 90% support of his people! Since I advised you to present facts and not fabricated balderdash I’ll tell you what are the results of the elaborated polls’ conducted in most of the EU countries along with the US on the question “who is a bigger threat to world’s peace: Hussein or Bush?” EVERY SINGLE EUROPEN country including the UK had Bush top the polls by at least 10% ahead of Saddam. In the US Saddam Hussein was only about 15% behind your own president!!! I’ll rest the case, but be sure and certain that the innocent American public will pay a might heavy price for Bush & Co’s barbarian paradigms but unlike 11.09.2001 you undoubtedly won’t have the world’s sympathy.

the French are cowards who put the importance of $$ through oil deals above the security of the world under the threat of terrorism. Their unwillingness to assist the US and its real allies in this situation shows their true colors - how sad it is that tens of thousands of our brave soldiers had to die for such an ungrateful people.

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Originally posted by fastmp3 30 countries woooooow and it happens to be half of them are MICKEY MOUSE COUNTRIES : Afghanistan, Albania, Azerbaijan, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia,Iceland,Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Nicaragua, United Kingdom, and Uzbekistan by bombing irak , bush is only giving another reasons to terrorists to make more attacks. i swear i will not be surprised if something worse than 9/11 happens again

i see it the other way around -- if NOTHING is done, and we only react to atrocities against us, terrorism will continue to occur. If we are proactive and go after it before it can strike us, we are going straight to the root of the problem.

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haha you're saying it's like terrorism come from irak exclusively and therefor after this war there will be no terror , it's a naive argument

and no there's no war in your territory , as far as i know you have no problem getting water/food/medecine , there are no bombs flying over you , and you're leading a very normal life , so please cut the BS , i suggest you go live under a REAL war zone to see what it's like

of course France has interests just like any friggin country of this world , but at least France doesn't want to do it by sacrificing the lives of innocents , that's the difference

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A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush on the Eve of War:

George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Dear Governor Bush:

So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world
have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived.
Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I
could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I
would like to share with you:

1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is
gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street
in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU
WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No
Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a
certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want
to kill him! Funny how that works!

2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your
weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives --
and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million
jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if
their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs almost two dollars -- the list goes
on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for
things to improve.

3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with
Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans
among them.

4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie
Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that
you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight.
Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.

5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an
enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America,
please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical
warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also
sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey,
guess what -- we don't think so either!

6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them
can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country
known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War
that won it for us? That our greatest thinkers and founding fathers -- Thomas Jefferson, Ben
Franklin, etc. -- spent many years in Paris where they refined the concepts that lead to our
Declaration of Independence and our Constitution? That it was France who gave us our
Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who
invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the
truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it
right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took
over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a
corner you can

Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will
be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to
protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity
polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every
now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). So try your best to ride this victory
all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to
have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!

But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election! See, start
thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!!

Yours,

Michael Moore

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Originally posted by DJMD123 Great googliemoogly!

First of all let me say that I do not support this war. At least not before Bush can provide some real evidence that Husein is building nukes/chemical/biological weapons.

But knowing Husein and what he has done before, I wouldn't be surprised if it's in his plans to build nukes/chemical/biological weapons. Now let me ask you - do you want to wait until Husein has these weapons?? Frankly, I don't. Because then - it's the end of the world.

The war is not against Iraqi's citizens - it's against Husein's regime and the threat that he'll build those weapons. Of course America has other hidden motives as well, but to me, that one is the most critical.

Husein MUST be eliminated. I'm not sure that war is the best thing possible, but I don't see another way of eliminated Husein and stopping his dictatorship. If USA could simply kill him, without spending billions of dollars on Army there, they would do that.

Everybody is blaming Bush for everything. Guys you have to realize, Bush is NOTHING. He's simply a pawn in the hands of those behind the scenes, who are the real people running the show. All he does is talk, the decisions are all made for him.

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ no - its not just Bush whos for removing the threat -- dont forget about the 30 countries in the International coalition... Afghanistan, Albania, ..., Azerbaijan, Colombia, Czech Republic, ..., El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, ..., ..., ...(post conflict), Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, ..., Nicaragua, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, ..., and Uzbekistan.

I bet that's the first time u've heard 'bout those countries, can u find them on the map?Do citizens of those support this war? I don't think so. Take Turkey for example, the entire population(~90%) is against.
And common, Afghanistan, is it a joke? Of course they will support this war, being bombed every day it's like having a gun to ur head.

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Last edited by vano on Mar-23-2003 at 14:06

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Originally posted by blumune the us should turn its attention to north korea,

yep, or north korea should turn its to us

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Last edited by vano on Mar-23-2003 at 23:24