I saw it in the croatian newspapers the first time. The figures on the net vary between 4 and 30 billion. I guess the 30 billion is the last one because it wouldtn't make sense if the offer was decreased.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030319/80/dvt5x.html

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Originally posted by JM good thing the US DOES support Israel! too bad the rest of Europe don't dish out ca$h to Israel like the US does! >JM<

I am pretty sure to remember that Germany has dished out cash for Israel at times, but i may be wrong.

Nonetheless, I don't see the moeny being well spent. There seems to be little/ no effort on the Israeli side to SOLVE the conflict in a non-military way.

Of course, the Palestinians aren't doing anything in that direction either.

Thinking Bush, I'd say "nuke them all, solve the problem, liberate some people".

the only little trouble he has with that, is that he needs to be able to label israeli's as terrorists, which he cannot, so he needs to take a side, hence he will rather kill a couple of muslims (who don't count as real people anyhow, now do they?) and see that his Israelis are victorious.

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Originally posted by melech_mike They have no credible stats to back them up accrider. dont you see a pattern here... lies and false claims always come from same people! They say things for shock value so when ignorant people read it, they find it dramatic and keep it in mind. This is what you call propaganda!

and only the side that doesn't agree with you does that, right? Ever thought that 'your' side does a little bit of propaganda as well? huh? ever occured to you that there is also pro-israeli propaganda? Probably not, since you seem to be completely in love with the hardliner course that the Israeli gov't has been running on the Arab issue.

I am not well informed enough to make a good point here, but from the bits and pieces I have acquired over the past couple of years, I don't think that either side (Israel/ Palestinians) are the 'good' guys. They both are as bad as the other one, which is probably why they hate each other so much.

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Nalin, your right, the Jews are after you!!!! RUN!!!!!! Are you scared of Jews? Have they ever thrown your body into a burning stove like Hitler did

have they thrown yours? probably not otherwise you'd not be posting. So why that question?

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What have the Jews done to you to have your panties all tied up?

A jewish person yelled at my non-jewish roommate, who was buying kosher grape juice:

She asked "Are you jewish"
him "no"
she "well, u know that grape juice is made for jews"
*he puts teh juice back*
*she seems happier*

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And kids in Arab elementry schools know how to strap bombs to themselves in the name of allah. Whats up with that? what kind of g-d would ask you to blow up innocent people so that dictator regimes of terror can continue!? Thats one messed up g-d you got there, i'd consider converting to something else if i were you... perhaps your views would fit nice with those of the Raelians!

wow, Mr. Tolerance is speaking. Let's say that OUR god is better than THEIR god.. goo crusades, time for a road trip.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ... Israel gets a 10 Billion USD in aid. I bet no one heard about it because everyone is busy with the war I'm very proud of you Americans! you have a big heart!

Well, of course, they have to support the motherland!!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 She asked "Are you jewish" him "no" she "well, u know that grape juice is made for jews" *he puts teh juice back* *she seems happier*

and that story is supposed to tell us what exactely?

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Originally posted by TranceGiant and that story is supposed to tell us what exactely?

tolerance swings both ways

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Originally posted by Izzy all? hmmm i dare you to name 20 powerful and influencial people in the US government, scratch that - name 10

Ari Fleischer - White House Press Secretary
Josh Bolten - Deputy Chief of Staff
Ken Melman - White House Political Director
David Frum - Speechwriter
Brad Blakeman - White House Director of Scheduling
Dov Zakheim - Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)
Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense
I. Lewis Libby - Chief of Staff to the Vice President
Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community
Chris Gersten - Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS
Elliott Abrams - Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations
Mark D. Weinberg - Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense for Policy
Michael Chertoff - Head of the Justice Department's criminal division
Daniel Kurtzer - Ambassador to Israel
Cliff Sobel - Ambassador to the Netherlands
Stuart Bernstein - Ambassador to Denmark
Nancy Brinker - Ambassador to Hungary
Frank Lavin - Ambassador to Singapore
Ron Weiser - Ambassador to Slovakia
Mel Sembler - Ambassador to Italy
Martin Silverstein - Ambassador to Uruguay
Jay Lefkowitz - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council

(source:http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US...l/bushjews.html)

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ... Israel gets a 10 Billion USD in aid. I bet no one heard about it because everyone is busy with the war http://news.com.au/common/story_pag...255E401,00.html wow Santa Clause is late this year, still ditching around 1500 USD to every israeli. Americans are very genereous, they give out their hard earned cash while their public school system is in ruin, and about 30 million of them aren't covered in any kind of medical insurance. I'm very proud of you Americans! you have a big heart!

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! Now Israel can buy more tanks and missles to kill children with, not to mention bulldozers to destroy more palestinian homes.

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Originally posted by melech_mike Thank g-d! They have no credible stats to back them up accrider. dont you see a pattern here... lies and false claims always come from same people! They say things for shock value so when ignorant people read it, they find it dramatic and keep it in mind. This is what you call propaganda! perhaps we should start off with the billions the US gives Egypt!!! and for what.. peace? we must pay Egypt for peace??? They should pay Israel that 10bill just so we dont go and annililate your fuckin hairy Egyptian ass's!!! Obviously you wont find those sources because they dont exist, and if they do, your too scared that those of us who are educated enough to know whos credible and whos not, would laugh our ass's off at your "source". Nalin, your right, the Jews are after you!!!! RUN!!!!!! Are you scared of Jews? Have they ever thrown your body into a burning stove like Hitler did, or did they ever rip our your heart and wave it in the air like the Palestinian-Arabs do? What have the Jews done to you to have your panties all tied up? You smell like you've been brainwashed. either being brought up by a family who hates Jews, or have been influenced by hate organizations. either way i deem you to be irrelevent in the political discussions on this board! Your an anti-semite!!! you know it and i know it. Dont give me this bullshit of you also being a semite because your not!!! The turm anti-semite is known to be exclusive to Jews and not until recently have a heard stupid Arabs challenging Jews saying "you cant call me anti-semetic, b/c i'm a semite". your a termite, trying to eat away at any Jewish presence in this world! I find it interesting that you say this! If youd like i wil post to you all those dead threads that didn't get answers from you Anti-Israel, Anti-America fucks. Your're trying to tell me that i dont reply, or that occrider doesn't reply or others who support the west's mindset? The true masters of illusion are you guys, those who claim Israel this and America that! You answer the questions posed at you, and dont even dare say that you do! Go look at "is it really about occupation" for starters!!! And kids in Arab elementry schools know how to strap bombs to themselves in the name of allah. Whats up with that? what kind of g-d would ask you to blow up innocent people so that dictator regimes of terror can continue!? Thats one messed up g-d you got there, i'd consider converting to something else if i were you... perhaps your views would fit nice with those of the Raelians! b/c the stats are wrong!!! plain and simple... give us something good to work with. here here! Great point! We try and speak with sentances that others can comprehend on this board. you just through together a bunch of words and sprinkled a few egypts in there... looks like wherever you got your education needs some reform! than you should be relieved that Israel is not getting that $10bill for free from the states!!! ohh, and you hate that word because it puts you on the defence. you are an anti-semite and you dont want to make it publicly known so you get all worked up when someone calls you that. are you scared that the Jews will come after you like Nalin seems to think?? Cyrus, your posts have always been nothing more than plain bullshit. i suggest you put a little more effort into the shit you post. I critisize CNN more than you my 'friend'. to me CNN is just as bad as BBC... no wait... BBC is much worst! This is propaganda because its not true. you cant even find one source to back your claims!!! do i need to say any more???? the hate is in the topics you discuss and how you so easiely love to blame Israel for the worlds problems. there is much more aid going out to countries that have been less a friend to the US. why isn't your dick all up in they're business? Yes ahamalek i do win... because truth will always prevail! i'm not here to make arabs look bad. my goal here is not to let the arabs make Israel look bad with no justification! lies dont work. eventually someone who knows there shit will tear you apart and make you feel so very stupid! So yes this thread is propaganda! Its a lie! and only stirs up incitment and since its false, you should agree with me that Blik should formally close this thread with a message saying "propaganda, lies and incitment are now welcome on TA"! Now that would be the right thing to do... but hey, this is TA, and the majority of the who frequent it are anti-israel, anti-US supports - we will obviously never see the same amount of equality from MOD's like blik as you "anti's" do!

mike mike mike...i was wondering where ur posts are over the topic afterall it has israel's name over it..i didnt read your whole post..well except the one u say i am not educated and stuff and the part about how u should get paid for not annhilating our asses..well concerning my education..i graduated highschool with a 4.0 GPA, i am a computer science senior in the university of california and i own a private lil import buisness..so i dont think that classifies me as uneducated..i tend to type a lil fast and not to proofread my posts as i dont think we are in school here. now concerning egypt..i know how much u hate us egyptians more than other arabs country,maybe cause u failed to take our lands who knows..All i know is we have our lands and u dont so i am happy with that..now i have a request can u flame me and my origin cause i am so intimidated by u and israel. ..its people like you who give israel a bad name..

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior Ari Fleischer - White House Press Secretary Josh Bolten - Deputy Chief of Staff Ken Melman - White House Political Director David Frum - Speechwriter Brad Blakeman - White House Director of Scheduling Dov Zakheim - Undersecretary of Defense (Controller) Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense I. Lewis Libby - Chief of Staff to the Vice President Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community Chris Gersten - Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS Elliott Abrams - Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations Mark D. Weinberg - Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Michael Chertoff - Head of the Justice Department's criminal division Daniel Kurtzer - Ambassador to Israel Cliff Sobel - Ambassador to the Netherlands Stuart Bernstein - Ambassador to Denmark Nancy Brinker - Ambassador to Hungary Frank Lavin - Ambassador to Singapore Ron Weiser - Ambassador to Slovakia Mel Sembler - Ambassador to Italy Martin Silverstein - Ambassador to Uruguay Jay Lefkowitz - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council (source:http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US...l/bushjews.html)

Peaceful Warrior, are you using this as your basis for arguing that the Jews have infiltrated the upper levels of our government and are influencing our foreign policy? Because that's how this whole discussion of Jews in our government came about.

Well if you are, this is probably the most significant factor that is missing from your list. THERE ARE NO JEWS IN BUSH'S CABINET. The last presidancy where there were no Jews was Reagan's. Out of those list of Jews there may be 4 people that have ANY kind of significant INDIRECT influence on foreign policy. Actually when you come to think of the size of each govnernment agency this list is probably underrepresented of the Jewish population in America. I would still like somebody to PROVE to me that there is a Jewish infiltration of our government to secretly alter our foreign policy. I don't say it often, but that kind of thinking is just plain racist.

Btw if you're just responding to Izzy's challenge to find 10 jews in the government then I take back my gripe

Well, this fact might look very surprising to some of you, but the fact that the richest people in US are Jews willing to spend more money on the motherland than on home (US) should clear up some things here...

Even if it means taking $$$ from poor little bastards in US and sending that money over to Israel so they can get more weapons and get a few more nuclear bombs.

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