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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
What I was pointing out champ was that those in the white house weren’t the only ones telling fibs. A huge amount of emphasis was placed on Curveball’s information, and saddam also did his damndest to fool everyone into thinking he had WMD, primarily to keep iran at bay. Im not denying the intelligence services in the US were absolutely useless in this regard, but I also understand that the situation was far more complicated than “bush did it”. They failed horribly in their duty of care for sure, but that failure can be spread around. Congress, Curveball, Saddam, intelligence services etc. your assertions are simplistic and shallow, almost child-like.
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What you're completely deluded about was it it was some kind of "failure" of intelligence; that they were mislead by this one guy.
They were not "mislead", it fitted their agenda, and I don't believe Curve Ball's story that "he could not beleive that they were taking him seriously" and it was only later that he realized his lies had been used as the "evidence" for the invasion. He was paid (with Asylum amongst other things) to supply the basis for the invasion, which is why the Bush administration did not allow access to him by anyone other than a very select group of CIA cronies.
Curve ball had his own motivations for lying, but the job of the intelligence services is to verify and find complimenting evidence but they were having none of it.
There simply was, and is, no evidence apart from a verbal statements of questionable origin yet everyone else in the intelligence community was telling them any other evidence simply did not exist.
So the logical step was to go to war?
Sorry, but you're either incredibly stupid or for your own reasons of party pride, you just don't want to take the blinkers off.
People were screaming about the lack of evidence then, and they were silenced in no uncertain way -valerie Plame being one of them. Sadly the silenced have been proved right by 9 years of occupation, 4000+ military deaths and free run of the country, not to find a single WMD in Iraq.
This isn't rocket science. They didn't have any evidence and haven't found anything there. It's not just a mass coincidental "failure", geddit?
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
So, provide the evidence. You repeating statements doesn’t make them any more true.
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FACT: 2004, The UN made a formal complaint that Bush was "holding back information concerning more than $1 billion in reconstruction contracts awarded to several well-connected American firms without competitive bidding" the main reciepient being...you got it, Halliburton!
| quote: | Originally posted by On the Issues.org
Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Cheney, has won contracts worth more than $1.7 billion under Operation Iraqi Freedom and stands to make hundreds of millions more dollars under a no-bid contract awarded by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The size and scope of the government contracts awarded to Halliburton in connection with the war in Iraq are significantly greater than was previously disclosed.
Services performed by Halliburton include building and managing military bases and logistical support. Halliburton has emerged as the biggest single government contractor in Iraq. Interest in Halliburton was ignited by a routine Corps of Engineers announcement in March reporting that the company had been awarded a no-bid contract, with a $7 billion limit, for putting out fires at Iraqi oil wells. Corps spokesmen justified the lack of competition on the grounds that the operation was part of a classified war plan and the Army did not have time to secure competitive bids.
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That's was only up to the end of 2003, can you imagine what the next 6 years also yielded for him as a shareholder?
Here's a taste:
The Washington-based, Institute for Policy Studies, and the Boston-based, United for a Fair Economy.
This study found that since 9/11, the 34 defense CEOs have pocketed a combined total of $984 million, or enough, the report says, to cover the wages for more than a million Iraqis for a year. In 2005, the average total compensation for the CEOs of large US corporations was only 6% above 2001 figures, while defense CEOs pay was 108% higher.
Look up the report for yourself. All you have to do is open your eyes, type and look.
Enough about cheyney.
let's get to Bush:
FACT: Bush Sn, major stakeholder in the Carlyle group.
Carlyle specializes in military and security investments.
Bush Jr. in office Carlyle's profits soar; it received $677 million in contracts in 2002, then a whopping $2.1 billion in 2003.
In the fall of 2003, Bush Senior finally resigned from the Carlyle Group as the accusations of family war profiteering grew louder. However, according to the Washington Post, he still retained stock in the firm and gave speeches on its behalf for a fee of $500,000.
SOURCE:
http://www.counterpunch.org/pringle04122007.html
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
So Bush’s family is drilling for oil on behalf of other companies who actually own the oil contracts? Again, provide the evidence. You just playing connect-the-dots isn’t evidence.
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See the link above for some of the Bush family (not just Dubya) connections to war profiteering, including oil and defense profiteering.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
their nefarious plan wasn’t very good was it? |
Why? It worked out great for the Bush and Cheyney families. Just that the russians and chinese are making out very well indeed.
Boring.
Next!
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Don't hate the players, especially when you started the game. 
