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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well that just speaks of volumes hey shaolin, wheres your support of your brother in arms? well im not gonna bother with you anymore coz youre a fucking fruitcake.

I am not afraid. I dont care about your opinion, enjoy the laughter ;-) Just remember I'm laghing at you too, and I still cant believe your level of ignorance is somewhere near the top. How do you live with yourself? Agh, never mind. Lets split our ways, shall we? I'll try not to comment on your posts, and you avoid mine, OK? Good deal?

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Last edited by Magnetonium on Oct-09-2006 at 01:03

^^ Man, that dark green text is hard as hell to read.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN hey shaolin, wheres your support of your brother in arms?

I certainly can't support all of that, especially Aliens and stuff .

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^ Man, that dark green text is hard as hell to read.

Sorry, I added an extra letter TO MY usual combination.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I certainly can't support all of that, especially Aliens and stuff .

Yeah, some people think I am way over my head. But not crazy. You guys never met me in real life, you'd be very surprised at how easygoing and fun I am! Its just when it comes to politics, I take it very seriously.

I believe in lots more things, but mainly there's hardly anything from the government line that I believe ;-)

New World Order runs the show and I've caught them lie over and over again, so I just dont believe what they say, only when overwhelming evidence is at hand.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium You know why pancake theory is wrong? because the WTC North/South buildings had a solid huge inner core of like 40 columns- the inside wasnt hollow!!! So we should have had the columns remaining standing there!!!

Can't be a whole lot pancaking here since there is an obvious tilt of around 40°:



It's funny how people entertain the pancake theory but won't entertain the demolition theory.

Either way they're both theories and they can both be proven right or wrong IF the steel of the WTC complex was not destroyed overseas for forensic and chemical analysis.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Can't be a whole lot pancaking here since there is an obvious tilt of around 40°: It's funny how people entertain the pancake theory but won't entertain the demolition theory. Either way they're both theories and they can both be proven right or wrong IF the steel of the WTC complex was not destroyed overseas for forensic and chemical analysis.

Thats right, I never believed in the pancaking theory, its full of flaws and missing any logic reasoning behind it.

As for the illegal destruction of most of evidence ... There were EVEN civilian plane crashes that killed many people that were given proper study, like the plane crash off coast of Canada some years ago and the one over Scotland, all the evidence was well kept, collected and re-constructed to discuss the flaws, reasons, and come up with conclusions and solutions. However, at this crime scene, at this critical event where the evidence was needed to be carefully studied and looked at, all of it was quickly destroyed.

Sounds like cover-up to me. Destruction of evidence ...

Ugh, you know, this topic is so pointless, we've all made up our minds on it already, why create pointless and futile arguments?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Can't be a whole lot pancaking here since there is an obvious tilt of around 40°: It's funny how people entertain the pancake theory but won't entertain the demolition theory.

because there is absolutely NO evidence to suggest controlled demolition. NONE. you guys kept crying "thermite!" until the scientists proved you wrong.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Either way they're both theories and they can both be proven right or wrong IF the steel of the WTC complex was not destroyed overseas for forensic and chemical analysis.

more lies.

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Researcher Mike Kennedy fires the air gun on NIST's Kolsky Bar Tester. This device measures the mechanical behavior of steel from the World Trade Center under stresses similar to those that resulted from the aircraft impact with the buildings. NIST researcher Mike Kennedy aligns a high-speed temperature sensor on a Kolsky bar apparatus used to measure the mechanical behavior of steel. The test sample from recovered World Trade Center steel is just visible between the two bars in the center of the picture. At high rates of deformation, heat is generated. About every millionth of a second, this instrument measures changes in the average temperature across an entire sample. NIST researcher Bill Luecke checks the calibration of a contact extensometer used in the high-temperature mechanical testing system pictured here to assess (at temperatures from room temperature to well over 1,000 degrees Celsius) the strength and ductility of the steel used to build the World Trade Center. NIST researcher Steve Banovic uses an optical microscope to examine the microstructure of steel from the World Trade Center. This information will help identify the type and quality of steel used. Pieces from actual WTC beams are visible on the right. NIST researcher Richard Fields adjusts a dial gauge on one of several creep testers that will be used to evaluate the high-temperature, time-dependent mechanical behavior of the steel used to construct the World Trade Center.

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Thats right, I never believed in the pancaking theory, its full of flaws and missing any logic reasoning behind it.

firstly, how the fuck would you know? secondly, you think you know better than the world's structural engineers? im not surprised someone that believes in roswell is so eager to believe in a demolitions theory that has absolutely no evidence at all.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN because there is absolutely NO evidence to suggest controlled demolition. NONE. you guys kept crying "thermite!" until the scientists proved you wrong. more lies.

Umm... no!



I've posted articles about it and this video before. Did you miss them?

EDIT: And This:

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

how bout you paraphrase for me, im not listening to 40 mins of that dick. i like it how he starts off with "ive published 4 peer-reviewed articles" yet doesnt mention that his big article on the collapses hasnt received peer review, nor that the world's engineers disagree with him.

so please paraphrase the so-called evidence for me. cheers.

oh, and also, you guys put waaaay too much faith in a single scientist who isnt even qualified to investigate the collapses of the towers. NOT very credible. 1 non-expert versus hundreds of experts.

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oh, and jones didnt find thermite in the steel he found what you would expect, sulphur.

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Alex Jones, professional conspiracy theorist radio host, has said Jones found evidence of thermite. This isn't true. What Jones found was something which would have been in the debris pile anyway. Sulfur... In Steven Jones' PDF "Answers to Objections and Questions", to support his claim for Sol-gels/Thermite he states: "One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done," However when you look at the link he uses http://www.newsday.com/news/health/...page-right-area You find out Mr. Jones edits out the VERY next line which states "He said it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers." Apparently, Jones felt this was not important enough for his readers to know. Sloppy research or purposeful deception by the "scholars"? The evidence for one is growing...

http://debunking911.com/thermite.htm

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