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Originally posted by T_ALI It'll be laid to rest when people become more open-minded and realize that Israel is at fault as well for murdering hundreds of INNOCENT people.

So Hamas isn't at fault here for using them as human shields? For firing rockets from mosques and schools?

Listen, Israel would've stopped LONG ago, if Hamas stopped firing rockets. This is how ridiculous Hamas is- they claim they are trying to 'free their people', but they're ruining their lives. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would see after just 1 day of Israeli retaliation they would know they are outnumbered and outstrengthened. So what do they do? Keep firing at the big dogs, which only results in more retaliation, more deaths and more destruction (and the devastation is AWFUL!). Hamas is sacrificing their own people for what? Their rockets are no comparison to Israel's weaponry, yet they wont stop or surrender. Whats the big picture here? They are willing to sacrifice their own people, the Palestinians, at any cost, just to make Israel look bad? Incite World War 3? Hypothetically speaking, lets just say if Iran were to send over a nuke to Israel, think there wouldn't be any Palestinian casualties? Think again. But I bet you all those Arab neighbors won't say a peep about Palestinian civilian casualties if that were to happen, right?

Lets just remember folks, that Hamas has fired over 3000 rockets in 2008 alone, and Israel never fired back and repeatedly asked them to stop. You can only get away with it for so long before someone hits back. But does the UN hold 'emergency sessions' to deal with Hamas firing at Israel? No. Have they ever held one to bring the topic of suicide bombers to light? No. But if Israel defends itself, 'how dare they, those animals!'

And people say this has nothing to do with antisemitism? Bullshit! Why are Jews around the world (Israeli or not), who have nothing to do with this, being attacked, shops and synagogues being vandalised? Why was Israel's basketball team running for their lives when they went to play a match in Turkey, Turkish fans were out for blood? (and Israelis probably make up for a large portion of Turkey's tourism, aint no Turks coming to Israel, so Israeli's may want to take their business elsewhere after that). But when a suicide bomber hits, or a rocket hits in Israel, do Jews in Israel or around the world go and attack Muslims or mosques, or businesses? NEVER. And dont try and paint it as 'anti-zionism'- this is full blown antisemitism at its best.

Ugh, I'm so done with this topic....

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ISRAEL OCCUPIED PALESTINE ...
GET THE FAK OUT
I couldn't believe what the Israeli spokesman was saying last night on the news ...
1000 Israel kids have been injured in the last 8 years ... or an 8 year old kid can no longer walk or whatever the fuck he was saying ... ISRAEL is suffering my ASS
WOW
the problem is simple ... give back the land and the lives you took forcefully YOU PIECE OF SHIT ZIONISTS
WISH ALL THE ZIONISTs could DIE and suffer
yes ... all this media coverage/CNNetc ... all the biased media creates more hate

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Originally posted by T_ALI It'll be laid to rest when people become more open-minded and realize that Israel is at fault as well for murdering hundreds of INNOCENT people.

If you're just going to repeat yourself and not even listen to what others have to say, then you really should just keep quiet. You aren't adding anything here.

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE WISH ALL THE ZIONISTs could DIE and suffer

And this is a perfect example of what they have to deal with. Except that over there, they're making their statements with guns and rockets instead of internet connections.

Is it any wonder that they're constantly at war, with this kind of mentality? Do you hear any of the Israelis or "zionists" saying that ALL Palestinians should suffer and die?

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Originally posted by DigiNut . Do you hear any of the Israelis or "zionists" saying that ALL Palestinians should suffer and die?

I dont think they need to because there Govt is doing enough as is...dont you agree?

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Originally posted by tatgirl So Hamas isn't at fault here for using them as human shields? For firing rockets from mosques and schools? Listen, Israel would've stopped LONG ago, if Hamas stopped firing rockets. This is how ridiculous Hamas is- they claim they are trying to 'free their people', but they're ruining their lives. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would see after just 1 day of Israeli retaliation they would know they are outnumbered and outstrengthened. So what do they do? Keep firing at the big dogs, which only results in more retaliation, more deaths and more destruction (and the devastation is AWFUL!). Hamas is sacrificing their own people for what? Their rockets are no comparison to Israel's weaponry, yet they wont stop or surrender. Whats the big picture here? They are willing to sacrifice their own people, the Palestinians, at any cost, just to make Israel look bad? Incite World War 3? Hypothetically speaking, lets just say if Iran were to send over a nuke to Israel, think there wouldn't be any Palestinian casualties? Think again. But I bet you all those Arab neighbors won't say a peep about Palestinian civilian casualties if that were to happen, right? Lets just remember folks, that Hamas has fired over 3000 rockets in 2008 alone, and Israel never fired back and repeatedly asked them to stop. You can only get away with it for so long before someone hits back. But does the UN hold 'emergency sessions' to deal with Hamas firing at Israel? No. Have they ever held one to bring the topic of suicide bombers to light? No. But if Israel defends itself, 'how dare they, those animals!' And people say this has nothing to do with antisemitism? Bullshit! Why are Jews around the world (Israeli or not), who have nothing to do with this, being attacked, shops and synagogues being vandalised? Why was Israel's basketball team running for their lives when they went to play a match in Turkey, Turkish fans were out for blood? (and Israelis probably make up for a large portion of Turkey's tourism, aint no Turks coming to Israel, so Israeli's may want to take their business elsewhere after that). But when a suicide bomber hits, or a rocket hits in Israel, do Jews in Israel or around the world go and attack Muslims or mosques, or businesses? NEVER. And dont try and paint it as 'anti-zionism'- this is full blown antisemitism at its best. Ugh, I'm so done with this topic....

First of all, I said the Israeli army/government is at fault "as well". I sympathized with both sides especially when innocent people die, but in this conflict; Israel went too far!!!.

I'm really sick of the more powerful/resourceful countries thinking they can do what ever they want and then justifying themselves saying that they did no wrong.

ex.

Turkey and Armenia

USA and Irag/others

Nazis and the Jews

Israel (army/government, not the people) and Palestine

China and Tibet

etc...


oh and FYI I'm not religious at all!!! I believe is GOD but I could care less about Islam, Christianity, Judaism since I think they're all BS!!

The only outcome that'll follow is a major shitstorm brought on by a lot of really pissed off people.

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Originally posted by UmmiE I dont think they need to because there Govt is doing enough as is...dont you agree?

No. Israelis and Jews are not out for the annihilation of Palestinians, or their surrounding Arab neighbors what-so-ever. Get that into your head already. We dont send out suicide bombers, promise eternal heaven, give money to their families for doing so, pray for their destruction, teach kids to hate, spread lies, etc... If we were 'so bad' then you would see that institutionalised like it is on their sides- ALL their sides.

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
WISH ALL THE ZIONISTs could DIE and suffer

Get a grip on yourself there.

Again folks, see how much hatred there is towards the Jewish side of things here? Not once has any Israel supporter said "WISH ALL THE PALESTINIANS WOULD DIE & SUFFER", let alone "WISH ALL THE TERRORISTS WOULD DIE & SUFFER". And I love how you folks try and paint Zionists and Jews as separate entities. Majority of Jews are Zionistic and love Israel, whether they are left or right wing. Stop using Zionist as a dirty word already.

Am Yisroel Chai

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some of the people in this thread are utterly disgusting individuals...i hope that none of you ever have to go through half of what these people are going through...and if you did..as much of a bleeding heart as i am..i don't think i would really care...that's how disgusted feel...just say already that you hate the palestinians because of your religious affiliation and stop fuckin trying to argue that you are on the side of RIGHT.

i guess it's great news that israel bombed the UN relief agency..but of course it was justified cuz there was a dude there, that knew a dude..who knew a dude..who had a cousin that was a part of Hamas...it's so sickening..

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Originally posted by DigiNut If you're just going to repeat yourself and not even listen to what others have to say, then you really should just keep quiet. You aren't adding anything here. And this is a perfect example of what they have to deal with. Except that over there, they're making their statements with guns and rockets instead of internet connections. Is it any wonder that they're constantly at war, with this kind of mentality? Do you hear any of the Israelis or "zionists" saying that ALL Palestinians should suffer and die?

Look who's talking!!! Probably one of the most narrow-minded people on this forum. If u read my earlier posts u'd know that I was neutral and had sympathy for both sides until the Israeli army started killing hundreds of INNOCENT people; there's no call for that.

There's even numeruous rabbis and other fellow Jews who agree with me.



What they have to deal with??? Try being isolated in a small area along with 1.5 million people where resources are scarce and u have to watch others starve and on top of that, people are being murdered left right and centre. Is that how u wanna live ur life or r u going to do something to change it? sound familiar??? read what the Nazis did to the Jews when they were placed against their will in the "ghetto"!!!

Seeing what my family and fellow people were going through!!! Would u be pissed off?? I fucking would be!!!

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Originally posted by tatgirl No. Israelis and Jews are not out for the annihilation of Palestinians, or their surrounding Arab neighbors what-so-ever. Get that into your head already. We dont send out suicide bombers, promise eternal heaven, give money to their families for doing so, pray for their destruction, teach kids to hate, spread lies, etc... If we were 'so bad' then you would see that institutionalised like it is on their sides- ALL their sides. [QUOTE] Originally posted by TRANCEEEE WISH ALL THE ZIONISTs could DIE and suffer Get a grip on yourself there. Again folks, see how much hatred there is towards the Jewish side of things here? Not once has any Israel supporter said "WISH ALL THE PALESTINIANS WOULD DIE & SUFFER", let alone "WISH ALL THE TERRORISTS WOULD DIE & SUFFER". And I love how you folks try and paint Zionists and Jews as separate entities. Majority of Jews are Zionistic and love Israel, whether they are left or right wing. Stop using Zionist as a dirty word already. Am Yisroel Chai

seriously..just shut up....your agenda is so obvious...i really have tried to not disrespect the people who have differing views on here....like yohan, aj..and even digi..but you..your extremist views are rubbing me the wrong way...and don't bring the Turks into this....i happen to be one..

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Originally posted by gummybear some of the people in this thread are utterly disgusting individuals...i hope that none of you ever have to go through half of what these people are going through...and if you did..as much of a bleeding heart as i am..i don't think i would really care...that's how disgusted feel...just say already that you hate the palestinians because of your religious affiliation and stop fuckin trying to argue that you are on the side of RIGHT.

Again, I dont know where you're getting this. Pretty much EVERY Israel supporter here has said they feel awful for the Palestinians, that it is Hamas that has gotten them into this war, how horrible it is that there are civilian casualties. No Israeli supporter here hates them.

But the hardliner pro-Palestinians in this thread (and I just mean the hardliners) have not once laid any blame on Hamas, or said Israel deserves a right to exist, or has ever said a word about peace. Do you honestly think MILLIONS of Jews should just get up and leave after all these years? Even the whites weren't told to get out of South Africa when apartheid was done. They have to learn to get along, end of story.

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Originally posted by DigiNut If you're just going to repeat yourself and not even listen to what others have to say, then you really should just keep quiet. You aren't adding anything here. And this is a perfect example of what they have to deal with. Except that over there, they're making their statements with guns and rockets instead of internet connections. Is it any wonder that they're constantly at war, with this kind of mentality? Do you hear any of the Israelis or "zionists" saying that ALL Palestinians should suffer and die?

rocks and guns ... 1000s of rockets SUPPOSEDly that have claimed the lives of 13 jews in 19 days ... are the weapons HAMAS has ...
compared to the ability of IDF .. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
look at the killings
look at the CRIMES
you have no idea ...
you try living under occupation ... another country whose killed your mother, brothers and sisters; controlling EVERYTHING that moves in and out like you're slaves ...
YOU TRY living under that and we'll see if you can tolerate it
HATRED is inevitable
ZIONISTS are the problem/occupation is the problem and as long as these hungry fucking jew zionists are drinking the blood of poor palestinian men/women/children, this conflict will NEVER stop ... if anything, it will grow LARGER and LARGER ...

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Originally posted by gummybear some of the people in this thread are utterly disgusting individuals...i hope that none of you ever have to go through half of what these people are going through...and if you did..as much of a bleeding heart as i am..i don't think i would really care...that's how disgusted feel...just say already that you hate the palestinians because of your religious affiliation and stop fuckin trying to argue that you are on the side of RIGHT. i guess it's great news that israel bombed the UN relief agency..but of course it was justified cuz there was a dude there, that knew a dude..who knew a dude..who had a cousin that was a part of Hamas...it's so sickening..

Yup, most people here are so transparent with their arguments. Clearly one sided.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Israel funding post.

It is just annoying how much sense you make sometimes.