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djlithium
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So do mail order houses!
We just dropped 70 copies to juno.co.uk of our recent releases and DJMR.com also picked up a bunch.

See the thing is just this, debate it all you want. People say digital is the way to go foward but the numbers just don't add up to world wide domination.

We have delt with juno.co.uk (great record store btw go there for good tunes across the board) for a few years now, and a single order was never this big. We do restocks and new releases with them when they need them and when we have them, but not like this. We don't have EU distribution for our records so what I am saying here is it's not exactly cheap for them to order from a label direct but its happening more and more after the big fall out from the progressive "thang" that happened a few years back when really.. nothing was progressing anywhere, and a lot of distributors made terrible choices on their record purchases and the stores got fed up.
So my point is I think that a lot of stores are going label direct and cutting out the middle man and indeed that does another thing thats good for vinyl. It reduces the price. We just dropped our prices because of the simple fact that the exchange rate between the canadian and US dollar is so small now compared to a year ago even, that it just makes our bottom line on each release less of an issue. The materials are cheaper for our canadian plant to buy and thus our unit costs went down (.XX per copy which is a lot) and cutting the records in the US plus the platting is now much easier to swallow, as their rates haven't changed but the canadian dollar has gone up so we don't bit it so hard on the exchange rate for those vital services in the steps to make a record.
So instead of our records being 10 bucks on our site US, they are now 6.99 US which is perfect. Trick is of course some stores around here still think 14.99 or even 17.99 is a fair price for a record. Thats bogus. Reality is in canada no record, even if imported direct from outside the country or continent should be more than 14.00 flat. One store, www.remixrecords.ca

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DJ KING#1
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Registered: Aug 2006
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sorry but im a vnyil head till i die and i will never be caught dead cd djing

NOT to mention that cd djs if they trainwreck they can sample an effect and tweak it to cover the fact they screwed up while with vynil youll just have to suffer the consequences and a couple of BOOOOOOOS

besides you aint willing to master the orgins of records then you simply a playback dj


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AngusG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Brisbane

quote:
Originally posted by DJ KING#1
sorry but im a vnyil head till i die and i will never be caught dead cd djing

NOT to mention that cd djs if they trainwreck they can sample an effect and tweak it to cover the fact they screwed up while with vynil youll just have to suffer the consequences and a couple of BOOOOOOOS

besides you aint willing to master the orgins of records then you simply a playback dj


fuck I love ignorant people who don't have a clue what they're on about... it's always good for a laugh...


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DJ KING#1
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quote:
Originally posted by AngusG
fuck I love ignorant people who don't have a clue what they're on about... it's always good for a laugh...


hey ive been in the dj scene alot longer than you have ive seen countless djs spin live and have spoke to numerous ones about cds vs vnyil

and all of them have told me vnyil is profesional


and plus me being a dj and producer myself i do know what im talkin about so theres no use arguing

maybe when you grow up someday youll understand that vnyil will never be replaced by cds


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AngusG
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ KING#1
hey ive been in the dj scene alot longer than you have ive seen countless djs spin live and have spoke to numerous ones about cds vs vnyil

and all of them have told me vnyil is profesional


and plus me being a dj and producer myself i do know what im talkin about so theres no use arguing

maybe when you grow up someday youll understand that vnyil will never be replaced by cds


U speak and spell engrish real good...

There's nothing wrong with having a preference... but you've got to face the fact: At the end of the day that's your preference and nobody else's...

IF vinyl's (yes, it is spelt vinyl) that great, why are so many internationally famous DJ's spinning only from CD, and DJ's like Sasha and Gabriel and Dresden ditching CD's and playing off Ableton??

and why others like M.I.K.E, John O'Callaghan and John 00 Flemming have been pushing CDJ1000's as one of the greatest innovations in recent times.

I too have been in the music industry (as a musician, sound guy, lighting guy, roadie and these days as a DJ AND producer) all my life so don't preach to the choir...

Learn some basic literacy skills before you expect people to take you seriously.


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DJ KING#1
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dont worry about my literacy as long as you know what im talkin about thats all that matters


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AngusG
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Besides I would've thought that being a producer, finishing a track that day and being able to play it out that night would've been a huge benefit to playing CD's...


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DJ KING#1
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thats about it other than that forget it


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AngusG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Brisbane

quote:
Originally posted by djlithium
So do mail order houses!
We just dropped 70 copies to juno.co.uk of our recent releases and DJMR.com also picked up a bunch.

See the thing is just this, debate it all you want. People say digital is the way to go foward but the numbers just don't add up to world wide domination.

We have delt with juno.co.uk (great record store btw go there for good tunes across the board) for a few years now, and a single order was never this big. We do restocks and new releases with them when they need them and when we have them, but not like this. We don't have EU distribution for our records so what I am saying here is it's not exactly cheap for them to order from a label direct but its happening more and more after the big fall out from the progressive "thang" that happened a few years back when really.. nothing was progressing anywhere, and a lot of distributors made terrible choices on their record purchases and the stores got fed up.
So my point is I think that a lot of stores are going label direct and cutting out the middle man and indeed that does another thing thats good for vinyl. It reduces the price. We just dropped our prices because of the simple fact that the exchange rate between the canadian and US dollar is so small now compared to a year ago even, that it just makes our bottom line on each release less of an issue. The materials are cheaper for our canadian plant to buy and thus our unit costs went down (.XX per copy which is a lot) and cutting the records in the US plus the platting is now much easier to swallow, as their rates haven't changed but the canadian dollar has gone up so we don't bit it so hard on the exchange rate for those vital services in the steps to make a record.
So instead of our records being 10 bucks on our site US, they are now 6.99 US which is perfect. Trick is of course some stores around here still think 14.99 or even 17.99 is a fair price for a record. Thats bogus. Reality is in canada no record, even if imported direct from outside the country or continent should be more than 14.00 flat. One store, www.remixrecords.ca


In answer to your previous question before the edit... CD's obviously have perfect wow & flutter... vinyl no matter how well it's pressed/good a turntable you have probably won't... it can be close... but it's probably not perfect... I've found that and people have agreed that the record tends to speed up towards the end... not noticeably or considerably, but this is where the wow and flutter is at it's worst...


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DJ KING#1
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dance while the record spins


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Existo22
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For me it's vinyl
And that has to do with the availability of the music.
I just can't get the music I want on cd...

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DJ KING#1
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quote:
Originally posted by Existo22
For me it's vinyl
And that has to do with the availability of the music.
I just can't get the music I want on cd...


yes i mean some music you will never find on cd ever but lets face it the true art of djing started with turn tables its a never ending tradition

plus it feels good knowing your in control of your mix and being able to feel the vynil as well as the groove


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