when keying a song you are playing a three key chord. do you hold all three keys down at the same time or one key at a time? also is that all it takes to make a key is three notes? thanks for the advice.
Jun-15-2006 02:50
Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton
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Originally posted by Benjamin_D
when keying a song you are playing a three key chord. do you hold all three keys down at the same time or one key at a time? also is that all it takes to make a key is three notes? thanks for the advice.
Initially I would only hold down one key in order to find the root note, after that you can start striking other keys to discover if it's a major or a minor. Unless you are experienced as a musician you will find it hard to distuingwish what is actually going on if you start with more than one note.
3 notes to a key, well it depends on the key to be honest. Some yes and some no.
Also, sounds like you might be confusing Key with Scale. In a scale you will essentially have a group of notes that are all compatible with the root note but not necessarily each other, whilst all the notes that decide the key will be compatible as it is basically a chord.
Cheers
Nem
PS I did get your tell, have a whole heap to respond to but just been to busy lately. My apologiees.
I was asking because i got a chord book and it has right hand keys and left hand keys. So i am confused on if you hold down right and left hand keys at the same time or just one at a time and what not. also if you could please describe the best you can on what you are trying to distinguish between the two sounds being the key board and the song.
i can play one note, the root and it sounds decent and better than the others with a song and then i will play a three note chord with it and it doesn't sound right at all.
thanks for your help again Nem.
Jun-15-2006 14:16
Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton
If you are dealing with dance music the majority of stuff is in minor keys anyways.
Don't worry so much about 7ths and 9ths etc. You wont need it.
Just simply find the root and then establish if a major or minor key works with it.
A good idea would be for you to compare someo of the tracks identified in this thread and see if you can key them the same and they you would see how they worked.
Don't worry about left handed stuff, you don't need that either. Just be thinking a simple three note chord played with three fingers.
Ok one more silly question when i am playing a three note chord, i hold all three notes down at the same time on, lets say each base line or each bar(every four kicks), or what.
Jun-16-2006 00:24
Benjamin DuBose
Progressive trance Dj
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, Tx
one more thing. when you change the pitch +/- 3 percent you change a half key.
ok now is this 3% of the difference of the records.
meaning one record is +2% playing and you are mixing a record in that is -2% will thay work being that they are still inside of 3% on the decks but they are 4% different between each other.
Jun-16-2006 01:05
sterilis
Sunset Ibiza
Registered: May 2005
Location: Belfast/Ibiza/Manchester
Originally posted by Benjamin_D
Ok one more silly question when i am playing a three note chord, i hold all three notes down at the same time on, lets say each base line or each bar(every four kicks), or what.
after youve found the root note, just hold down the minor & major variations thru the whole song til you decide which sounds best. i play one continuous chord.
quote:
Originally posted by Benjamin_D
one more thing. when you change the pitch +/- 3 percent you change a half key.
ok now is this 3% of the difference of the records.
meaning one record is +2% playing and you are mixing a record in that is -2% will thay work being that they are still inside of 3% on the decks but they are 4% different between each other.
its 3% difference between the records. so no, a -2% and a +2% theoretically wont work.
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Jun-16-2006 01:55
Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton
quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
nem did you get that alena key?
Shit, good that you reminded me. Have put a reminder on my phone for that.
Sorry bro
Originally posted by Benjamin_D
one more thing. when you change the pitch +/- 3 percent you change a half key.
ok now is this 3% of the difference of the records.
meaning one record is +2% playing and you are mixing a record in that is -2% will thay work being that they are still inside of 3% on the decks but they are 4% different between each other.
As PK said, it's not a point on the pitch that's the factor here but the difference between the two records.
It will work however if you are playing a track that goes in 9a and you have another track that's being mixed in that is at least 4 to 5 percent slower if they were 0%, if it's in 2a, 1a or 3a for example. That would work because you have changed the key to match the faster track.
Registered: May 2005
Location: Belfast/Ibiza/Manchester
do they all have to be in similar tempo for this to work. ive got some tunes that are 137 bpm and are banging and some at 142 bpm and more chilled out. id usually leave the banging ones to the end and this is where i get confused on this.
Hey guys I am slowly trying to determine the keys of all my records. I have found many on this thread and on Mixshare, but I am also trying to get used to key my own vinyl. I use a keyboard and my ears
Here's my first try, I'd love feedback/confirmation cuz I might be totally off:
-Tahiti 80 - Big Day (Booka Shade rmx) Dm/7A
-The Beach feat. Tia - Suntan (Steve Mac Main Mix) G/9B
Keep posting, I've learned so much thanks to this thread!
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