Ok some more ?s, when you have a song that is at 0 pitch and it is in a Cm if you move the pitch up 3% then it would be a half step so now you would be in a Dbm and if you went up to 6% then you would be in a Dm. is this correct or not

saying it started in a 5A then 12A and then a 7A
Cm Dbm Dm

My take on it (may be wrong) is that 3A at 6% is 4A

quote:

Originally posted by Benjamin_D Ok some more ?s, when you have a song that is at 0 pitch and it is in a Cm if you move the pitch up 3% then it would be a half step so now you would be in a Dbm and if you went up to 6% then you would be in a Dm. is this correct or not saying it started in a 5A then 12A and then a 7A Cm Dbm Dm

No guys,
If you have a a track in Cm (5a) and you move the pitch by 3%, it's like you are bending a guitar string. It falls into the middle ground where it will either work with both, 1 or none of them but it doesn't actually become either note. It's halfway beween a Cm (5a) and C#m (12a) (Yes also known as Dbm).
For it to become Dbm (C#m) you would have to be hitting the 6% mark.

Cheers
Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

quote:

Originally posted by skot_e My take on it (may be wrong) is that 3A at 6% is 4A

What you need to do is think like this.
Using the Camelot system you either Add 7 or take 5 to get the one note lift type mix, for example the 6% difference on a 3a becomes a 10a i.e. A#m to Bm.

The 3a to 4a mix works totally differently and is based on compatible musical scales, and ultimately is a bit more abstract. You are basically talking about a note's 4th and 5th.

Cheers
Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

Edit: delete slow post - Ques answered

cool let me try to reword this. i have a song that plays at 130 bpm but the rest of my songs are playing at 137 so i would have to adjust the pitch by 5 or 6% if the song started out at a 5A, Cm and adjusted the pitch that mmuch the song would be in a 7A, Dm now right. so now i just mix it into songs that are 7A, 6A, 8A, 7B, 11A, 4A.

quote:

Originally posted by Benjamin_D cool let me try to reword this. i have a song that plays at 130 bpm but the rest of my songs are playing at 137 so i would have to adjust the pitch by 5 or 6% if the song started out at a 5A, Cm and adjusted the pitch that mmuch the song would be in a 7A, Dm now right. so now i just mix it into songs that are 7A, 6A, 8A, 7B, 11A, 4A.

Not quite, it would become 12A i.e. C#m.

It would then work with 1a, 11a, possibly 9a and 4a and should work fine with other tracks in 12a.
Your theory is almost sound.

Think of it like this, 6% increase would make a 5a to 12a, 12a into a 7a, a 7a into a 2a and so on.

Cheers
Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

If you had a song that was in key Gm (6a) ans adjusted the pitch +6 or 7% what key would it be in then.

the reason i ask is A is a really low note and G is a really high note. how would this work if you are only using middle c, a & b to the left and d,e,f,g, to the right.

thanks for all of your help NEM,

hi Benjamin_D--

a song in Gm at +~6% is going to be in G#m (also called Abm)

i wouldn't think of notes as being higher or lower than each other, as every 12th note up and down repeats itself. so while you say A is a really low note, there's a G that's below it (2 half-steps). for every A there is another A an octave lower and higher. maybe i misunderstood... ;-)

Also worth checking out the rising pitch theory.

Cheers
Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

I've been wondering about octave changes myself. When playing tracks that are same pitch / different octave I find myself having to compensate more bass on the EQs for the incoming track if its a higher octave.

When the basslines are in key AND octave...changing over to the new track is hardly noticable.

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by Dirk W. People in Dallas aren't *ssholes. Just look at me, I live in Dallas.

Meat is Murder...tasty, tasty murder.