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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit and how is this relevant at all to what i am saying.

Because you are claiming "consuming foods with high fat content will lead to a higher caloric surplus". Consuming too much food with high fat content with high fat content lead to a calorific surplus, but it's incredibly easy to anyone who isn't a fuckwit to ensure that doesn't happen. Anyone who is on a diet will count calories first.

Bottom line is: fat content is irrelevant to indiscriminate weight loss. Calories are relevant. Get it through your useless fucking skull.

And I'm not on welfare, you clown. I have a job.

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You didn't answer my question. I want to know if you were attempting to insult me.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Nobody calculates their diet in that way, you complete cretin. Look at the nutritional information of any food and the calories are the first fucking number. You work out your calorific requirement (there are simple and accurate equations) and you work out the calories in the food you eat in a day. Just keep the second number lower than the first number and you can live on KFC and you will lose weight. I have done it. You really are outstandingly stupid, Karim.

oh and one more thing to fill your devoid brain.


how do you think they get that calorie number genius?

sum up (carbs*4, fats*9 and protein*4)


there you go, i spoonfed you, exactly what you're accustomed to.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Because you are claiming "consuming foods with high fat content will lead to a higher caloric surplus".

Yes.

What are you trying to argue with me here?


what is easier to do? maintain a calorie deficit with lower fat foods, or higher fat foods.


I can walk to work which is 40 km away or i can drive.

Right now you're calling me an idiot because i choose to drive and im enforcing that point by breakign things down for you.


the laws of parsimony apply here

Christ on a bike, you really are an idiot Karim. You have zero credibility left and your knowledge on this topic is seriously lacking. You also oversimplify everything.

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Originally posted by Miss Pie You didn't answer my question. I want to know if you were attempting to insult me.

Well you've surely been working out for a couple of years now, and you're often talking about your core workout, but you can still only do 80 seconds of plank?

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit what is easier to do? maintain a calorie deficit with lower fat foods, or higher fat foods.

They're exactly as easy, provided you can read the nutritional information of the food you're about to eat.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit If you knew how to read, all i am saying is that fats contain more calories then carbs and proteins. If you eat less fats you will consume less calories.

The problem with this argument is that it erroneously assumes that you will consume the same number of grams of food either way.

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Originally posted by Arbiter The problem with this argument is that it erroneously assumes that you will consume the same number of grams of food either way.

Apparently he's quite used to eating half a kilo of lard for breakfast, like everyone else. Go figure

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well you've surely been working out for a couple of years now, and you're often talking about your core workout, but you can still only do 80 seconds of plank?

Well I really only started doing planks this past year. We have a home gym now, all free weights, etc., whereas before I was using machines for most everything.

I also stopped working out for a good half year or better and never really got back into the same groove I had going (I used to go to the gym every other day for a solid 8 months, now I'm only working out 2-3 times a week).

So yeah, I probably would be stronger had I not fallen off the wagon and had been using free weights the whole time. But eh, I'm getting there.

I'm not at all trying to boast here, but after a month of doing core exercise 2-3 times a week, my plank time went up from about 60 seconds to at least three minutes. Before that I'd been totally neglecting my core. So I'm just surprised that someone like you who's always talking up the importance of a strong core, well... doesn't have a strong core.

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Welp, sorry to disappoint you. I don't think it means I have a weak core just because I'm not doing 3 minutes. My sister is a personal trainer and she said a 2 minute goal is fine enough. I just hate planks so I don't push myself as hard as I could. Most exercises I do engage my core, so I know it's strong.

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Originally posted by Arbiter The problem with this argument is that it erroneously assumes that you will consume the same number of grams of food either way.

its all relative then i suppose

my point through all of this, probably it was missed several times as this argument ensues, is that fatty foods are more caloric dense relative to non fatty foods (obviously relating to the same mass portions)