This Tread is stupid...to whoever started this(i forgot to look) but why put down someone that like trance...he probally liked trance way before he was an mtv VJ so he got a break one day and became a VJ...now he put out a trance cd...good for him! not that i WANT it to go mainstream but if 10% of trance songs go mainstream we will hear and people will produce man new trance tunes!

when i said biggest underground dj... i meant his style of music being underground and yet his name being big.
he's a huge name (like sasha) who hasn't taken his music to a commercial level.
sasha and digweed fall into this category, perhaps uniquely IMO.

oakie was underground in the mid 90's.. i would say he's definitely a lot more commercial now... spearheading the commercial trance scene along with ferry corsten and tiesto.. you cant really say he's underground anymore (but im not trashing him here)

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I think some people me included are woried that if trance becomes commercial that it will be left by the big DJ's who dont want to be seen DJin stuff that is commercial and we will be left wiv unimaginative formulaic shit.

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Well, to me paul Oakenfold is still underground, I mean, only the tru clubbers and hardcore ppls know him, go to your school and shout, who knows paul oakenfold ?!!?!? they'll wtf !!!buty after showing up at MTV, they may at least say.. that sounds familiar. I have to say that thanx to the commercialized trance, I got into the more underground, since I became a tru fan of it, but we all know that not all trance will be commercialized, we cant say that b/c a trance song became a radio played, be calling the WHOLE trance commercial, no , thats jsut bull, trance has become so big and so diverse that its branch are reaching everywhere, its now sharing so many different sounds, Progressive, Dream, dark, melodic, epic, uplifting, goa/ psychedelic, hard, clubtrance to even sharing some sounds with others genres ... there will always be underground trance, as well the commercial trance.. but hey, it seems that non of you would rather have a video music channel showing the latest trance songs videos, or a radio station playing the latest in trance for those fans out there... you have that all over the netherlands, there, you get some of the top DJ's doing live sets, in radios such as SLAM FM , or 538 FM, where you hear events such as Hyperstate, and trance energy, BCC 1 is another one in the UK.. I mean.. b/c of that trance is not underground anymore there?!!?!?!? theres still is!!!
I personally wish to see trance videos and a radio station playing My music .... but since some of you want it to stay underground, and still heaving that Hip Hop and all the other sh*t still playing on the biggest media we have, then we are gonna have to adjust to this system, and if you are like this, then Moving to UK, Germany , or Holland, than it would be the biggest nightmare for you once you see Sasha on TV spinning live on TV..... think about it.. is common sense!

what, you mean like the "10/10! must get!" stuff on websites that go
kick intro - 8 bars
synth intro - 8 bars
VERSE 1 - 16 bars
cheese chorus 1 - 8 Bars
bridge - 8 Bars
VERSE 2 - 16 bars
cheese chorus 2 - 8 Bars (2 phrases)
big, cheesey "emotional" BREAKDOWN - 16 Bars
etc ?

nah. NEVER happen.

its already happened, ravemonkey

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i think dat every dj has taken it 2 da commercial level even Diggers and Sasha...i mean come on they always spin @ Twilo, which is 1 of da biggest clubs in NA..Twilo is a like a commercial..i depends on da popularity rigth now and then...Oakenfold is definetaly da #1 dj dats been heard all around da world...Oakenfolds made some many tours..u know ur self...China, Argentina, Cuba....ppl heard trance there already but dat was just da being....and yez most ppl still dont know who Oakenfold is or Sasha or Diggers....talking about Tiesto? he's only popular in da Dutch land and UK i suppose as well...but here in Canada...i mean nobody didnt even hear of him...Tiesto, Oakenfold, Sasha, Diggers? Who da fuck is dat and so on? Even junglist, only know who Oakenfold is..da rest they dont know..and so on..Trance is da musik of Europe..yez its grown in da states but dats only in Florida...San Francisco, Los Angeles and NYC...only da big cities..so wat if Oakenfold and da others spinned at Las Vegas or ne city in TX? there still not knowed...i dont know if they will ever reach da top there...i mean 2 many ppl listen 2 Rap, Hip-Hop, Country, Pop and shit..

Well, I would include Las Vegas in big cities, I dunno how big trance there is, but theres an explosion of BIG clubs going over there, I mean, some even call it the american IBIZA, the same goes to MIAMI( closer to be called like that ) and well, Oaky spends looooots of time in Las Vegas, thats on of his favorite places, Oaky, wherever he goes, gets the place packed, in TX, where D:Fuse spinns, been with Oaky on the tour ( Making D:Fuse one of the future DJ's to look out for ) Oaky actually got the club packed to full capacity.

One Comment about oaky, did you guys know that He spunn at the grammys a trance set, been able to watch the artist dancing to trance , and heaving them coming to him asking to know what stuff and tunes he was playing ?!?!? as well.. he played in Salt Lake City Utah, watching as well Robert Redford dancing to trance...
thats something....

him didnt hear about dat Liquid X but dats safe 4 Oakie ...right there Oakie is proving 2 be da #1 popular DJ...companies involve him...hm American Ibiza ...but still da original Ibiza in Spain is da best

True about oaky filling up texas dance floors. he's been here three times that i know of and he's basicly why everyone comes. oh ya and then theres D:Fuse, i gotta support my local star, this guy is talent. he plays very good progressive stuff and is very cool to watch especially when he gets the crowd moving by waving his cowboy hat (he wears it every show). I hope oaky can make him big

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Well, Oaky has done alot for D:Fuse, he was last year at the WMC, been nothing, this yr, his gonne reaaaal far, releasing that Progressive CD , but I like his Psychotrance 2000 better :-)

And yes BLUE Neon, nothing will replace the true IBIZA, I'll be going there once I get my big bucks, another Island to watch for is mallorca, some big time techno partys there, well, thats where my germans friends go, and say that is better then IBIZA, I dunno about that.. they are neighbor islands... so who gives :-) I will try both !