^^^^^^^ I agree, Alcohol causes thousands of deaths due to drunk driving, at least when you smoke (hopefully in an area where your seperated from non smokers) your only killing yourself. Im a non-smoker, I smoke a cigar every once in a while, but I'm not a fan of second hand smoke. In school (chiropractic school) I actually disected a smokers lungs, and it looked HORRID.. the person died from lung cancer and I could see how black, and hard the lungs were. Lungs are suppose to be pink and spongy even after you die! We even disected the tumours and such, it was the most disgusting thing I had ever seen. Honestly I dont know why anybody would want to do that to themselves.

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe Honestly I dont know why anybody would want to do that to themselves.

and i thoguht u had reasoning capabilities


well many start because of peer pressure, others start cos they couldnt care less about life(like me)... once u get addicted and reach the stage of a pack a day, ur brain stops producing nicotine because it expects an intake from cigarettes... this causes the addiction and prevents one from goin cold turkey... most people who go cold turkey have issues with their metabolism and also their nervous system is unstable...its less pain continuing the intake from cigarettes than go through hell for months together ( i wen thru that hell for 2 weeks..i know)

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee and i thoguht u had reasoning capabilities well many start because of peer pressure, others start cos they couldnt care less about life(like me)... once u get addicted and reach the stage of a pack a day, ur brain stops producing nicotine because it expects an intake from cigarettes... this causes the addiction and prevents one from goin cold turkey... most people who go cold turkey have issues with their metabolism and also their nervous system is unstable...its less pain continuing the intake from cigarettes than go through hell for months together ( i wen thru that hell for 2 weeks..i know)

oh hey, sorry if I came off as being judgemental, I know how hard it must be to get off the stuff. You sound like you know what cig's do to your body and such, but its almost as if you've totally given up on trying to quit. What about nicorette and all that?? Dont just give up on trying to quit your lungs are one of the few organs that you have that can regenerate..

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Originally posted by partyprincess My last post I promise...Have you ever disected a liver? There are many unhealthy things in the world. Bungee jumping, surfing, skateboarding, street racing...I'm sure smoking cigarettes isn't at the top of the list. Sure, 50 year old 2 pack a day smokers lungs are disgusting. Most people aren't that self indulgent for their entire life.

actualy yes.. i've dissected an entire human body, and have studied it for 8 months. Livers over years of alcohol abuse dont stand much of a chance either. I find it odd when smokers find it neccerarry to make references to the evils of alcohol. Scroll up, I mentioned the fact that alcohol is just as bad or worse to cigs in my opinion, i'm just saying why not choose to quit? Human livers have the ability to metabolize alcohol taken in moderation very easily without detriment. Ever hear how a glass of wine once a day is acutally good for you? But there currently is nothing constructive or positive coming from cigs.. and what od outdoor activites such as skateboarding or surfing, or bungee jumping have to do with sticking something in your mouth and smoking it? They all have risks sure, but walking down the street to the grocery store has risk these days. p.S street racing is illegal in most countries..

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Originally posted by partyprincess Hmmm well then Doctor. Please tell me why I can't go near cigarettes unless I'm on dexadrine? So for 3/7 days I won't have a single one? And I've been smoking for over a year now. I don't want to quit because it feels so good to smoke when I'm spinning or producing or practicing. I can think so much better while I'm smoking.

never said I was a doc.. far from it! Actually most of the time i'm dumb as a post. I really dont know why when you're on dexatrine it feels so good to smoke. Theres so much crap going on in ones brain with chemicals, neuroreceptors, hormones..and so on.. that the dexatrine and the chemicals in nicotine create a euphoric feeling? Only you really know. You do have to understand though, years of brainwashing at school have made me be very preachy about cigs, drugs, so on and so on.. so just tell me to shuttup when I get annoying.

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p.s.. i jsut remembered.. isnt dexatrine an amphetamine that runs along the same lines as speed?? And ofcourse correct me if i'm wrong, but doesnt everything feel good when you're on speed? and other amphetamines, and aren't all your senses enhanced so the cigs become extra gratifying??

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Originally posted by partyprincess My last post I promise...Have you ever disected a liver? There are many unhealthy things in the world. Bungee jumping, surfing, skateboarding, street racing...I'm sure smoking cigarettes isn't at the top of the list. Sure, 50 year old 2 pack a day smokers lungs are disgusting. Most people aren't that self indulgent for their entire life.

I got news for you partyprincess...you're addicted!! haha. In all honesty I cant believe you're trying to encourage smoking!! And to compare sports to cigarettes?? never heard that before

LKD I can relate to what you're saying bro. Most people dont understand the evils of smoking. Even those that know wont admit it(biggest sign of addiction-denial). I remember I dated this girl that used to smaoke like a chimney(more than a pack a day on her 90lb body). When I brought it up her response was "as long as you dont wake up coughing"..wtf??
Going back to the evils of smoking, the side effects are slow but consistent, seemingly minor but actually deadly. Basically i'm trying to say they are not as prominen(compared to any other drug) and by the time they build up after coulple of years of its too late. FRom the digestive and nervous systems you mentioned to the short term memory loss, low energy levels, less stamina, muscle breakdown, low appetite, most organs' intoxication, thinning of the skin, just negative attitude, and on and on. You can also add to the time spend smoking in breaks where you could be eating, and also $$$!
My suggestion if i may is to start a physical activity that you find fun. Any sports that you like but better yet weight lifting. When you find yourself running out of breath before everyone else and lifting less than some girls you'd realize the sticks have to go. THen you're gonna want to quit even more. I had a friend last year that i used to work with and leter wento to the gym with and he was a bodybuilder(13 years of lifting under his belt)..anyways he made it seem so easy. Everytime we were on break and I would wanna go for a smoke or someone would offer me one, he'd say "just fuck it"!!
i'll admit you do need to be around friends that dont smoke...
just keep trying and you will...and rem you gotta be smarter than the sticks!
good luck!!

I used to smoke all the time..then i found my self always feeling gross after each cigarette that i had so i slowly quit on my own without realizing it....then one day my friend told me about the headrush she got when she smoked when she was drinking...so i started smoking when drinking...now for me...smoking and drinking go together like bacon and eggs....it just works....and thats the ONLY time i smoke...unless u count the green...then were talking a whole different ball game

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Originally posted by partyprincess Alcohol is much more dangerous. Perhaps you should go on your soapbox and lecture about that instead. You need rephrase "and they cause cancer" by...and they CAN cause cancer. Second hand smoke can cause cancer as well...so maybe you shouldn't go to clubs or bars.

lol

Alcohol is not even close to the danger of cigarettes. I agree, people are dumb enough to get drunk and cause the killing of themselves/their friends but its their own stupidity not the danger of the drug.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee its become a taboo again to smoke because the world now does realize the adverse negative effects of smoking and i think its bad enough that we cigarette addicts are looked down upon. i thin its about time u just let this go...ur the only one in this whole thread who seems to be showing off that u dont smoke and it really makes me sick to see people like u around here

wtf?


I'm not showing off anything. Why are my opinions being attacked?

^^^ To be honest, I personally see more people showing off that they do smoke than the ones who don't. I don't see how it's showing off though? As for not smoking, it's the 'square one' where everyone started. Should you choose to take it on, that's your decision - your (and actually other peoples', too) problem. I'm not trying to put anyone down, just offering a couple of cents.

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P.S - the stupidest arguement you can have is trying to justify the use of one harmful substance over another... Smoking is bad for you as is marijuana, other drugs & alcohol.. so don't try to defend your bad habits... just accept the fact that it's all bad :P