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Shakka
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Well put. One of the main reasons (if not THE primary reason) that the U.S. didn't seek out any further UN resolutions was that France openly said they would veto any new resolutions regardless of what they were. That kind of put the pressure on Bush to either go to war or back off, which would have made him and the U.S. look exponentially weaker. Politics is a dirty game.

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Well put. One of the main reasons (if not THE primary reason) that the U.S. didn't seek out any further UN resolutions was that France openly said they would veto any new resolutions regardless of what they were. That kind of put the pressure on Bush to either go to war or back off, which would have made him and the U.S. look exponentially weaker. Politics is a dirty game.


You think that Bush actually cared about the UN? He was going to go to war with or without their help!


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Shakka
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You think that Bush actually cared about the UN? He was going to go to war with or without their help!


Maybe, but his hand was still forced. You don't know what any other outcomes would've been, you only know what the actual outcome is.

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Seriously though, Bush was going to war no matter what. We all knew it was inevitable. He only went to the UN to mass together support and attempt to make his war "legal".

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Maybe, but his hand was still forced. You don't know what any other outcomes would've been, you only know what the actual outcome is.


True. I think it would have been interesting to see what Bush would have done if he had gained UN backing.


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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Well put. One of the main reasons (if not THE primary reason) that the U.S. didn't seek out any further UN resolutions was that France openly said they would veto any new resolutions regardless of what they were. That kind of put the pressure on Bush to either go to war or back off, which would have made him and the U.S. look exponentially weaker. Politics is a dirty game.


Chile proposed a resolution in which there will be giving Iraq 2 weeks and then UN will have its backing after that. But US strongly opposed to that, England actually liked it.. so with that you can also see that US just wanted to get it over with, and do what it has been waiting for so long. I also agree that the US went through UN just for the heck of it.. they were going to attack anyways.


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Shakka
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I think it just became apparent that the global community was willing to take little delay after little delay and drag their feet to do anything to avoid war. Not that avoiding war is a bad thing, but at some point you have to follow through or else you still end up as a defunct organization. The UN helped to seal it's own fate.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
True. I think it would have been interesting to see what Bush would have done if he had gained UN backing.


It would have also been interesting to see what would have happened if Saddam had opened up his country to inspectors without any delay and got an A rating from Blix. I do agree with Shakka however, the UN sealed its own fate by letting the issue turn into a 13 year debacle.


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It would have also been interesting to see what would have happened if Saddam had opened up his country to inspectors without any delay and got an A rating from Blix. I do agree with Shakka however, the UN sealed its own fate by letting the issue turn into a 13 year debacle.


agreed.


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