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| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
Marriage by definition is fine as it is...
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I could have sworn I heard this before on another topic, reading some history books way back when. Wait, if you substitute the word "marriage" with the word "slavery", ahh, that's it - now I remember where it sounded so familiar! It's these closed-minded opinions that continue to oppress the minority, simply because they can't express their different sexual preference. Now I'm not talking about beastiality here when I mean sexual preference, I'm just talking about same-sex. Why the hell does this bother you so much? Why the hell does it bother hard-nosed Christians so much? You know, I consider myself a half-ass Christian somewhat, I've been married for over 3 years now, we attend church from time to time, I'm more than comfortable in my heterosexual skin here, and I've never had one fucking problem with gays. So why do you? Because God says it's wrong? God says many things are wrong according to King James. Haven't you seen many 'o Christians picking and choosing that which fits their given agendas?
PAT ROBERTSON, COME ON DOWN!!!!!
You want to know why there's a little Christian bashing going on here? It's simple, many of us simply cannot understand what the hell you are afraid of. How on earth is gay marriage going to affect you and YOUR morals and standards set forth from good ol' King James? That's what I fail to comprehend - the fact that hard-nosed Christians truly believe that Gay Coodies are going to rub off of them and/or their children somehow. Well, being a half-ass Christian that I am, I just haven't had any Gay Coodies rub off on me yet. Maybe it's because I'm pretty comfortable with my sexuality, maybe because, like all people, I wasn't afraid to address that well-known question in my head when I was groing up: "Am I gay?" Or, "Do I like guys?" Welp, I gave it's due thought as a kid/teenager, and it just didn't appeal to me. Whenever I was joking my chicken growing up, hairy asses and schlongs just didn't enter in my head - I was after those damn cheerleaders. But you know something, what the hell would I care if someone else had different thoughts? Are there any studies that link homosexuality to crime? Any studies that link it to pedophilia? None that I can think of. And by the way, the sick fucks who called themselves "priests" in the Catholic Church were NOT gay, they were sick in the head with pedophilic behaviors. So why the fuck would I care if a guy wants to play with another guys' talywhacker? And one step further, why the fuck would I care if a guy wants to love another guy for the rest of his life, and demonstrate his love through marriage? Or do you think that homosexuals are incapable of love?
I'm well aware of what the Bible says, sir, as I'm sure you are well aware of some of the laws said in Leviticus - should we follow those too? Yes, I know that those laws were set forth in a lawless time after Moses' death, but times have most certainly changed, as has those laws (they used to kill people for some of the most non-serious crimes back then). So what decifers one type of laws changing to others? As times change, we change. Surely God and Jesus knew that. Now I know that the sex mechanism just doesn't fit for gays, and that human nature proscribes man and woman to "do the nasties" for reproductive purposes, which is why most hard-nosed Christians I've known have 500 kids a piece, because that's what God told them to do, even if it's not in their financial needs (hey, don't worry, God will provide). So I know it's the natural thing to do for good little Catholics and Southern Babtists to "be fruitful and multiply", but where does that leave those people who never felt this way? Where does that leave these branded minority individuals who never felt intimate towards the opposite sex, ever? What should they do?
Let me ask you a question: have you ever known a gay person in your life? Have you ever talked with one? I mean a serious one, one that can't remember a time when they weren't gay. I think you'll be a little more enlightened with your conversation with them. You'll find that they are just as human as you or I - they hurt and cry, laugh, and all that other shit that Shakespeare has described in his "Jew of Malta" story (I guess you could call it the "Gay of Malta" here - though I don't think Shakespeare would approve, but he kinda looked a little gay in his own right. Oh well.). They are only different in one way, and a way that they have no control over. And despite Dr. Laura's complete bullshit rhetoric about it being a "mental disease", and despite the completely faulty studies on it being completely from environmental factors, they can't switch back. Those God-aweful Christian conversion centers where they attempt to switch gays back to us normal God-fearing heterosexuals have been shown to be a complete failure (which is probably why Dr. Laura stopped endorsing the damn things - smart woman). They just really like their equipment, and do not switch teams, as Seinfeld so elequently stated. That's like asking you to switch to being gay. And aside of doing time in your local prison, from which being gay is NOT a choice but a life-threatening demand, you can't switch to being gay when you know you're not.
So how would gays expressing their love through marriage affect you? Are you not comfortable with your morals and standards enough that you feel a gay married couple walking down the street would somehow ruin your life in any way? And on a broader scale, how would that affect our society as a whole? I just don't see it, sir. All I see is bigotry and/or lack of understanding, plain and simple. So am I branding you as a bigot on this particular issue? I could be, yes, but perhaps you're not open-minded enough or experienced enough to see both sides of the issue, which is what I find the problem with many people opposing gay marriage. Perhaps God in all His wisdom created homosexuality way back when to teach his followers a little bit of tolerance. Accepting diversity is a beautiful thing, and the opposite is just plain ugly. We have enough forms of ethnic, religious, and cultural pursecution going on, no need to throw in sexual pursecution in the mix. I think as a society (and as a Christian white majority), we need to be a little more tolerant of people that are not like us in every way.
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Whence September dusk grows crisper still,
with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...
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