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u4ea:[soulstar]
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quote:
Originally posted by krusader
ive heard a little about this 5htp now... but i would like some more info

-where can i get it?
-how much does it cost
-what dosage should i take?


cost? in the US I've seen 50mg/60 pills for 13 bucks. 5HTP is L-trytophan, this is the precursor molecule that turns into serotonin.

you can get it anywhere, whether online internet stores or in your local area.

dosage. 1 or 2 pill. The more the better really, just use your discretion. It's like eating brain food.

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u4ea:[soulstar]
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Originally posted by totalcarnage
Has anyone taken shrooms while dropping? I have a future opportunity, and was just curious.


why don't you search the net for info on that? I never tried it. E usually eases the sketchiness some people are prone to when taking mush.

mush is hallucingenic, boosts your adrenal glands, pumps up your endorphins and serotonin, and doesn't dehydrate you like E does. it is also a blood vasolidator (sp?), you'll notice this when you look at your body and your muscle mass seems pumped up - which also increases your physical strength.

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TrAnCe CoNtRoL
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Registered: Jan 2001
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heres all the info you need on shrooms+e

Hippy Flipping...
The combination of Magic Mushrooms and ecstacy. The correct way to do this
is to take the ecstacy and on the 4th hour of the ecstacy you eat the mushrooms.
The mushrooms bring the e back on in full force. The body tingle turns into a deep
buzzing and it can be a very liquifying experience. Also, the ecstacy gives one the
ability to dance more than one would have if one had just taken the mushrooms.

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eXos
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Breathtaking!
Satan (eek!)

U always here stories like that..Same with alcohol. I've taken in my live even more then 300 pills... I still doing fine..No loss in Brain functions (I think). You can't see that I have taken so much. I took them between my 16th & 19th year...Stopped for 2 years, gained some weight (like 15 kilos) & now we only take them @ party's and thats one's a month...


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Elysium
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"E" was meant to be an aid for us club goers. To be able to danvce long and incredible hours and "feel" the muzik. Taking too much of anything is bad for you. Most people when they first start "e" drop quite alot. At some point, u have to slow down. U lose the focus of what the "E" was supposed to do.. Its not about the muzik anymore, its all about the feeling... Just because u don't see visual affects don't con yourself into thinking that there's no damage. As your neurotransmitters burn away, your brain will "reroute" in order for you to recall. Of course, the first couple of days after dropping u are so cracked out u can't think much less remember anything important. Its only a matter of time before u burn everything away. I started dropping two years ago. At one point, it was three days every weekend in the beginning. I've slowed considerably now. I may not even drop at all. I can enjoy PVD perfectly sober. Of course, my body aches from all the dancing. As for the guy mentioned who is having problems...I think its sad. Calling him "stupid" really means nothing.. People who drop or people who don't are all a part of this electronic dance movement. Yes, it can be frustrating when people don't care or aren't into who's preforming.. but, to each their own.. Since, when were people of the electronic dance movement constricted to meet a certain criteria? Its our job to care of people in our community regardless if u drop or not. It u seeing someone who is sick, paranoid, whatever..it doesn't take alot to offer a helping hand as one human being to another.

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u4ea:[soulstar]
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Originally posted by djgarfield
"E" was meant to be an aid for us club goers. To be able to danvce long and incredible hours and "feel" the muzik. Taking too much of anything is bad for you. Most people when they first start "e" drop quite alot. At some point, u have to slow down. U lose the focus of what the "E" was supposed to do.. Its not about the muzik anymore, its all about the feeling... Just because u don't see visual affects don't con yourself into thinking that there's no damage. As your neurotransmitters burn away, your brain will "reroute" in order for you to recall. Of course, the first couple of days after dropping u are so cracked out u can't think much less remember anything important. Its only a matter of time before u burn everything away. I started dropping two years ago. At one point, it was three days every weekend in the beginning. I've slowed considerably now. I may not even drop at all. I can enjoy PVD perfectly sober. Of course, my body aches from all the dancing. As for the guy mentioned who is having problems...I think its sad. Calling him "stupid" really means nothing.. People who drop or people who don't are all a part of this electronic dance movement. Yes, it can be frustrating when people don't care or aren't into who's preforming.. but, to each their own.. Since, when were people of the electronic dance movement constricted to meet a certain criteria? Its our job to care of people in our community regardless if u drop or not. It u seeing someone who is sick, paranoid, whatever..it doesn't take alot to offer a helping hand as one human being to another.


Cracked. Abuse is the culprit for psychological dependency. It's not a matter of e + having fun and enjoying the music, it is a necessity. Even with mush, the least addictive substance, I saw perceptual changes in my thought patterns that I didn't like, I stopped taking it for a while. There's a fine line between stupidity and sensibility that holds a kernel of meaning: it's responsibility.

It is as I see it, when a person takes drugs and doesn't listen to their body, and ends up damaging themselves - its stupidity. But I'm not going to stand there and watch, I will certainly try to help. I always do that at raves, babysitting people who are too scrambled on E. There was only one time I had to take matters into my hands when a raver was tripping really bad on E.

Raves. It holds deeper meaning to me. The subculture has many similarities with the other mystical systems like Buddhist traditions, Taoism, and Confuscanism (sp?). The emotions, the communal gathering, and the tribalistic expressions of individuals equate to our primordial instincts this techological world has lost. More spiritual, less hype and popularity for me, that's the way I think and express myself.

Visuals. If I ever saw this while taking E, I worry. It's tapping to into other parts of the brain, the visual cortex, where it shouldn't. I doubt it is suppose to give you hallucinations?? I've heard one of my lady friend experiencing this

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Raves. It holds deeper meaning to me. The subculture has many similarities with the other mystical systems like Buddhist traditions, Taoism, and Confuscanism (sp?). The emotions, the communal gathering, and the tribalistic expressions of individuals equate to our primordial instincts this techological world has lost. More spiritual, less hype and popularity for me, that's the way I think and express myself.


whoa dude, take it easy

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Elysium
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No actually, hallicunations happen with regularity depending upon the pill. For those who drop, "redeye" is a pretty common hallucination. But, i contribute some of this on the drug as well as the atmosphere. I never hallucinate at home. However, i hallucinate on a regular basis at twilo. AS for the reference as raves in a spiritual context....thats pretty deep. I never looked upon at raves in that light. To me the music, raves, and everything about the electronic dance movement was personal. It was something nobody could take away from this generation. Even years from now, when i'm sure that the popularity of the music will pass, I can always look back and say i was a part of something that changed the lives of this generation. Just like the baby boomers had woodstock and the demonstrations to protest vietnam. In that sense, u are correct. This movement is a spiritual one. It transcends the aesthetics of dancing, having a good time.

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u4ea:[soulstar]
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whoa dude, take it easy


Was I ranting? *scratches head

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u4ea:[soulstar]
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Originally posted by djgarfield
No actually, hallicunations happen with regularity depending upon the pill. For those who drop, "redeye" is a pretty common hallucination. But, i contribute some of this on the drug as well as the atmosphere. I never hallucinate at home. However, i hallucinate on a regular basis at twilo. AS for the reference as raves in a spiritual context....thats pretty deep. I never looked upon at raves in that light. To me the music, raves, and everything about the electronic dance movement was personal. It was something nobody could take away from this generation. Even years from now, when i'm sure that the popularity of the music will pass, I can always look back and say i was a part of something that changed the lives of this generation. Just like the baby boomers had woodstock and the demonstrations to protest vietnam. In that sense, u are correct. This movement is a spiritual one. It transcends the aesthetics of dancing, having a good time.



It must be uncommon then, though I do hear alot about mdma vision.

Spiritual. The methods are different, the end results are the same. One uses a drug [for the majority], the other does not [or seldom does]. But I see, I see the resemblance of massive stone statues of Buddhas meditating to the people dancing in unison to the music. It is truly transcendence, most of us just don't know it or recognize the quality in it. If you ever saw a thousand meditating monks, you'll understand the essence of unity and the power in it.

The movement is it its infancy, it lacks direction, it has a life of its own. It is its own revolution. Time will tell what will become of it.

Peace

BTW - I was never this philosophical and spiritual until I did mush. It truly open the gateway of my mind to the possibilities.

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