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Originally posted by Thor Be carefull with mushroom tea, if its too hot the Psilocybin will be destroyed. There is no evidence to support that drinking Tea will make your trip more intense, you absorb just as much Psilocybin from chewing mushrooms. The heat of the Tea does give you that feeling in your stomach like your trip is coming on, but its not going to get you high any quicker nor make the trip stronger. Everyone has their preference for how to ingest it, but there are things out there that are said to help with the stomach problems such as drinking orange juice before tripping..

Are you sure? I just speak from experiences. I boiled the Mush at temperatures of 100 degrees celcius. I'll have a total of 4 cups of water down to 3/4 of a cup of tea + mush juice. That's very concentrated. I noticed with tea, it's faster. It takes 15 minutes [drinking], instead of an hour [ingest]. But with tea, it last less longer than normal ingestion.

I've only noticed the intensity in seeing fibres of colors distinctly vivid. I don't see with ingestion

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] Are you sure? I just speak from experiences. I boiled the Mush at temperatures of 100 degrees celcius. I'll have a total of 4 cups of water down to 3/4 of a cup of tea + mush juice. That's very concentrated. I noticed with tea, it's faster. It takes 15 minutes [drinking], instead of an hour [ingest]. But with tea, it last less longer than normal ingestion. I've only noticed the intensity in seeing fibres of colors distinctly vivid. I don't see with ingestion

We are having our own personal mushroom class

So you are correct on the Tea bringing on the effects faster, but the thing is you are destroying some of the important good stuff by boiling the Tea..

Here is a response to Mushroom Tea by one of the worlds leading experts on magic mushrooms, John Allen. He's a friend of mine and let me tell you he's the Timothy Leary of Magic mushrooms

Very cool old guy, and he knows way too much about Magic mushrooms!
Heres the original post from the Shroomery. Shroom tea and dried shrooms

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To make a tea out of your shrooms or any other form of liquid mixture causes the user to lose half of the high or more. Yes you get off very fast in liquid form but do not forget that psilocybine is water soluable and psilocine is not, so you lose much of the actual high by making a tea.

Also you should always take 15 to 25 minutes to comsume the dosage so the trip comes on to the bodies nervous system at a slow rate causing the high to gradually unfold.

In the form of a tea, most people are down in a couple of hours but the oinset has been compared tot he thrust of a jupiter rocket on liftoff.

The Mazatec Indians consume their doses in a period lasting up to a half an hourr depending on which species they are consuming.

This means 1 to five grams of dried in vitro grown cubensis or from one to two ounces fresh.

Whether it is 20 to forty fresh liberty caps or one to two dried grams.

The high will then last from three to four hours or longer with many visuals at three hours.

Of course I have answered this question on numerous ocassions and still people do just the opposite.

Have a shroomy day.

Mj

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I can speak from experience that mushroom tea is less visual, and chewing dry mushrooms over about 10-15 period makes the trip longer and much more visual. This all of course depends on what mushroom you have, some strains are more visual than others.

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Originally posted by Thor [B] A schizoid?? Where did you get your facts, this just is not true. These urban legends come from LSD, thats with extreme doses and/or long term abuse of LSD. Mushrooms are not going to make you schizoid, thats just not true. Its true mushrooms should be used sparingly, I'd probably say I do them 4-5 times a year, and a strong trip is something I do even less because of how much there is to decipher from the experience. The shamanic experience would likely be a level 5 experience, I've read much on the subject and the most common description of these trips is there is so much I could not put in words Heres the intensity levels for Mushrooms:

Schizoid. It can and it will during a bad trip, no matter the dosage or the quantity of use. It could happen to anybody from an inexperience user to an experienced one. The level of instensity varies from mild to psychotic.

There are various archtypes to schizoprenia, and people tripping bad on mush exhibits similar symptons of those archtypes.

1. Paranoid of people
2. Delusional, having unrealistic fantasies
3. Acute panic, acute anxiety
4. Unreasonable fear of dying
5. Depression

Basically, the person's dopamine system is WAY over active, the main culprit for all these symptons.

Forgot: Thanks for the level classification. I always hit level 5 if I just sit and meditate: silence my mind.

BTW - is there a classification for someone who can actually take someone else into level 5 and higher? Am I one of them.

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Originally posted by Thor We are having our own personal mushroom class So you are correct on the Tea bringing on the effects faster, but the thing is you are destroying some of the important good stuff by boiling the Tea.. Here is a response to Mushroom Tea by one of the worlds leading experts on magic mushrooms, John Allen. He's a friend of mine and let me tell you he's the Timothy Leary of Magic mushrooms Very cool old guy, and he knows way too much about Magic mushrooms! Heres the original post from the Shroomery. Shroom tea and dried shrooms ______________________________ To make a tea out of your shrooms or any other form of liquid mixture causes the user to lose half of the high or more. Yes you get off very fast in liquid form but do not forget that psilocybine is water soluable and psilocine is not, so you lose much of the actual high by making a tea. Also you should always take 15 to 25 minutes to comsume the dosage so the trip comes on to the bodies nervous system at a slow rate causing the high to gradually unfold. In the form of a tea, most people are down in a couple of hours but the oinset has been compared tot he thrust of a jupiter rocket on liftoff. The Mazatec Indians consume their doses in a period lasting up to a half an hourr depending on which species they are consuming. This means 1 to five grams of dried in vitro grown cubensis or from one to two ounces fresh. Whether it is 20 to forty fresh liberty caps or one to two dried grams. The high will then last from three to four hours or longer with many visuals at three hours. Of course I have answered this question on numerous ocassions and still people do just the opposite. Have a shroomy day. Mj _________________________ I can speak from experience that mushroom tea is less visual, and chewing dry mushrooms over about 10-15 period makes the trip longer and much more visual. This all of course depends on what mushroom you have, some strains are more visual than others.

I understand your logic and I wouldn't question it since you are the guru. The strain was ah oh jeepers ahh the usual kind everyone else gets in my town (Calgary, Alberta, Canada).

I love to agree with you, but all my experiences speak the opposite. I don't think I could stomach chewing mush to great lengths. I cannot stand the moldy taste. Bleck..

Interesint tidbits of information, always educational for me!!!!

=Thor=

Note about Level 5, it is what I call my experiences jhana - equivalent of reaching nirvana. Or known also as samatha - the extreme high state of tranquility and bliss that supersedes euphoria. Plus there was an article that explains why a person loses their sense of identity and awareness. I'll dig it up and post in your board, it seems more appropriate in there than here.

Have you ever tried meditating while zooming?

Silence of the mind is a deafening experience, like the multiclaps of thunder from Heavens within.

Peace

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] I understand your logic and I wouldn't question it since you are the guru. The strain was ah oh jeepers ahh the usual kind everyone else gets in my town (Calgary, Alberta, Canada). I love to agree with you, but all my experiences speak the opposite. I don't think I could stomach chewing mush to great lengths. I cannot stand the moldy taste. Bleck.. Interesint tidbits of information, always educational for me!!!!

Cool, another Calgarian, I'm also in Calgary

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wow your the webmaster of the shroomery, such a great site.

Thanks Its a cool site, if you like message boards you should check out the shroomeries boards, its a very cool place to hang out.

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fuck... today was awesome hehe... today was the first time i have ever been to amsterdam, and it was awesome (beautiful place, espicially the heineken brewery and the central park... that place is so awesome) ....well yap, me and my friend that im living with over here bought like 8 pills of the stronger type of herbal exctacy and 4 joints of purple haze.... strong as fuckin ballz i swear, we came back to his house, smoked like 2 of the joints, and them came the herbal extacy, we each took 4 of them...and fuck, i guess some of that herbal extacy shit sux, but this was pretty potent for herbal wares..... was fucking awesome, very pleasant feeling and its legal and not as fuckedup as all these other drugs.... beer/pot/herbal extacy ...is that bad?? .... well this was just one of those funner days i guess, i usually dont do drugs..but i guess ill live it a bit more up when im ove rhere in holland.


ps: you dutch people have a very very BEEAAUUTTTIFFUULL country. its like another world to me and you should consider yourself very privliged.

alright, enoujgh blabber from my fuckeudp ass... peace,

-ftnb

I've never done shrooms before. They are to rare in this area, but i learned today that my friend is getting some at the end of the week. I'm not sure, he said he's buying 20 caps, i havnet a clue on dosage, what to take, or how. I know you chew on it or something, but for how long? Is the taste really that bad?!

and if i like it enough, after reading Shroomey.org, i'm gonna grow some.

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i really dont think the taste is that unbearable. i eat mine with peanut butter and jelly. chew them for a bit then swallow. you can taste the p&j and the shrooms just crunch, i cant really taste them. on the dosage im not sure, you should ask thor about that. i am only used to dealing with things like 1/8's and ounces and stuff like that. btw thor how many grams are in an 1/8 of an ounce?

i was on a mad weekend in Sydney Aus, had done all sortsa shit, then Sunday nite, we were "chillin" at home and dropped acid (superman) and had loadsa bulbs (nirous oxide cartridges). I drained a 5 bulb can, and lost it, i suddenly turned into a bee and was buzzing in the top corner of the room looking down on us all sittin in the lounge, all i could hear was the hum of my wings and i saw everyone as normal. Then i heard a click and i blinked and a friend was right infront of me clicking his fingers in my face, and I was sittin on the couch again, love that trip.