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Originally posted by TiTi True there are many kids wanting to be rappers. But I see it in trance too. Everbody wants to be a dj. Just look at the TA events. You get these people all wanting to spin and think they are good. If you can beatmatch, then you can dj. Haha! As for rap, rappers young and old agree that Eminem, Tupac, Jay-Z, Nas... are good. Those old rappers mentioned will agree Eminem got skills. And I resent the comment about Oakey. He is still the greatest dj, period. The range he's got, hip hop to trance is unmatched. His livesets are awesome. IMO, I still think all you are selfish. You feel less special if more people listen to trance. You all feel like you are better than other people. I get that from the KTU bashing. Even if trance goes mainstream, there will always be good and bad trance to choose from. It's not like all trance will be bad. Just like not all rap is bad.

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Originally posted by TiTi True there are many kids wanting to be rappers. But I see it in trance too. Everbody wants to be a dj. Just look at the TA events. You get these people all wanting to spin and think they are good. If you can beatmatch, then you can dj. Haha! As for rap, rappers young and old agree that Eminem, Tupac, Jay-Z, Nas... are good. Those old rappers mentioned will agree Eminem got skills. And I resent the comment about Oakey. He is still the greatest dj, period. The range he's got, hip hop to trance is unmatched. His livesets are awesome. IMO, I still think all you are selfish. You feel less special if more people listen to trance. You all feel like you are better than other people. I get that from the KTU bashing. Even if trance goes mainstream, there will always be good and bad trance to choose from. It's not like all trance will be bad. Just like not all rap is bad.

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these are the different feelings I got from that post.

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Ok, no war. I give up. Just let me listen to my "cheese." But always remember, a healthy diet consists of dairy products. But seriously, you people shouldn't think yourselves better than people who listen to KTU and pop-trance. They're people too. Ok, some of them. Haha. Same goes for Oakey fans, myself included.

You misinterpret... This isn't about who is better. Its about protecting what we believe is good/quality music, from corporate record-labels. KTU is running along those lines. We have all seen the degradation of other forms of music due to this. You can listen to KTU all you want, you can disagree all you want, and we can argue semantics all day. The fact is I and many people believe that KTU is the antithesis of quality. I would suggest going to www.clubplanet.com and searching for a recent thread made by a KTU staffer under the New York forum of the messageboard, I think you will understand, in fact I will post a link in a second.

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Posted by a KTU employee on 7/16/2003.

We here at KTU keep are music and staff NEW and FRESH! We are made by the listener and for the listener! ƒº Keep in mind we try to appeal to all age groups and types of people in the disco scene! Check out the late night party for all you deep dark raving type clubbers! ƒº (Yes we know you¡¦re out there!)

We promise to keep delivering great content if you promise to keep listening!


We are also moving are party crew into the latest club fad GLOW STICKS! That¡¦s rite folks be ready for spotting the ktu party crew out and about handing out free glow sticks. We know what you all want!


-peace for all

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Originally posted by Aya Brea ktu is a joke, which is why people are pissed off about it. they play pure guido cheese shit when it comes to playing the music they THINK is quality dance music. wlir (92.7) on the other hand, wouldn't be so bad because on certain nights they'll have a whole time slot just for dance music and it isn't bad at all. i was actually introduced to xpander on that station a few years ago.

WLIR plays good music sometimes (their dance songs are played on friday and saturday nites after 10, but if one is to listen to it 2 nites in a row (like if you are stuck somewhere w/ no CD player but only a radio one can see this) then it can be repetitive.
i too, was also introduced to many dance tunes from that station!

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Ok, I misinterpret. As for the thread, is it for real? Cause I find it amusing. The glowstick comment is great! I don't listen to KTU much, and I don't know how the radio staion works. So I'll take your word for it that they suck. But what do you think of other radio stations playing popular trance? Say, the Party93 station in Miami? Do you support what they do? What about Kiss100 where Digweed plays? And Armin's ASOT station, ID&T? I think of the dutch station 938 too? What about these? Don't they "commercialize" trance also? I think Armin's ASOT plays popular trance, I use the word "popular" loosely though. And I won't even touch how much these dj's make. Aren't promoters killing trance too? Or are you one of the many here that pay $50+ for a PvD party? In summary, I agree with you that KTU is bad, but I think trance can find a place on the radio. I look at house as an example. It is quite mainstream, maybe more so in the UK and France. But they seem to be putting out quality house tracks. Can't trance be as popular as house without losing quality? Any thoughts?

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KTU playing ATRC is not good in my opinion, Party93 in florida playing ATRC is a lot better, but not fully because thay play alot of Hip Hop and cheezy dance music too. what i think is that we need to have a EDM ONLY station in NY. Digitally Imported could do that easily (money is the only prob.) they have a huge community, they have 10 thousands of people at their peak times listening to EDM. and thats only ppl on PC. They could have separate times for Trance, Hard Trance, House, Dance or mixed up. thats where i would be proud to listen ATRC.

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Originally posted by TiTi Ok, I misinterpret. As for the thread, is it for real? Cause I find it amusing. The glowstick comment is great! I don't listen to KTU much, and I don't know how the radio staion works. So I'll take your word for it that they suck. But what do you think of other radio stations playing popular trance? Say, the Party93 station in Miami? Do you support what they do? What about Kiss100 where Digweed plays? And Armin's ASOT station, ID&T? I think of the dutch station 938 too? What about these? Don't they "commercialize" trance also? I think Armin's ASOT plays popular trance, I use the word "popular" loosely though. And I won't even touch how much these dj's make. Aren't promoters killing trance too? Or are you one of the many here that pay $50+ for a PvD party? In summary, I agree with you that KTU is bad, but I think trance can find a place on the radio. I look at house as an example. It is quite mainstream, maybe more so in the UK and France. But they seem to be putting out quality house tracks. Can't trance be as popular as house without losing quality? Any thoughts?

There is a BIG difference between Europe and the States with regards to music. Party 93.1 is ok, they have a few good shows but the rest is crapola. I think a radio-station with a better format, might get my support. Its just that I really don't like having ATRC lumped together with Jay-Z and Spears, and all of those other jackasses...

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