I spent about 4 hours yesterday going through only one of three of my record baskets keying and bpm'ing tunes...the results are below. I'm pretty confident on these, but verification is always nice

128 / Cm (5A) 4th Avenue - No Sleep
137 / Em (9A) Aalto - Rush (Super 8 vs. Orkidea Remix)
137 / Fm (4A) Above & Beyond - Far From In Love (Airbase Remix)
137 / Fm (4A) Above & Beyond - Far From In Love (Original Mix)
137 / G# (4B) Above & Beyond - Far From In Love (San Francisco Mix)
139 / Am (8A) Afterburn - Summer Sun
139 / Am (8A) Agnelli & Nelson feat. Aureas - Holding Onto Nothing (Original Paul van Dyk Edit)
134 / C#m (12A) Airwave - When Things Go Wrong (Remix)
137 / Fm (4A) AR52 - Enigma
137 / A#m (3A) BBE - Seven Days And One Week (Ferry Corsten Remix)
128 / C# (3B) Big Thrills - Donna Does Pills (Original Mix)
137 / Bm (10A) Binary Finary - 1998 (Ronski Speed Remix)
137 / Bm (10A) Blair Bitch - Ilios
136 / F#m (11A) Blair Bitch - Texas Chainsaw Massacre
135 / Dm (7A) Bossanova - Stone Cold (Original Mix)
137 / Bm (10A) Castaneda - Floor Control (John Askew's 5am Gallery Mix)
137 / Bm (10A) Castaneda - Floor Control (Original Mix)
139 / Am (8A) Chemical Brothers - Electronic Battle Weapon 6
134 / G#m (1A) Chicane feat. Bryan Adams - Don't Give Up 2004 (Agnelli & Nelson Mix)
134 / Fm (4A) Chicane feat. Bryan Adams - Don't Give Up 2004 (Alex Gold And The Sound Xpress Mix)
139 / Cm (5A) Cortez - Scaramanga
133 / Fm (4A) Cortez - The Force
139 / Dm (7A) Darren Tate & Jono Grant - Let The Light Shine In
137 / F# (2B) Darren Tate vs. Jono Grant - Nocturnal Creatures (Jono Grant Remix)
136 / F#m (11A) DJ Danjo & Rob Styles - Witness
139 / Cm (5A) Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder (D&G Mix)
137 / Em (9A) DT8 feat. Roxanne Wilde - Destination (Darren 'DT8' Tate's Original Mix)
137 / Em (9A) DT8 feat. Roxanne Wilde - Destination (Jurgen Vries Mix)
135 / C#m (12A) Endre - Kallocain (Robert Nickson Mix)
137 / A (11B) Envio - Touched By The Sun (Original Mix)
139 / F#m (11A) F&W - You Will Understand (Original Mix)
137 / G (9B) Ferry Corsten - Indigo (Original Mix)
136 / Bm (10A) Ferry Corsten - Right Of Way
131 / A#m (3A) Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body, Rock (Extended Mix)
129 / G (9B) Fight Club feat. Laurent Konrad - Spread Love (DK Remix)
139 / D#m (2A) Filo & Peri - Elevation
139 / Em (9A) Filo & Peri - Juicy
137 / F#m (11A) Firewall - Sincere (Pulser Remix)
137 / D#m (2A) Free Raidcal - Surreal (En-Motion Remix)
139 / Am (8A) FX Zone - Synthasia (Original Mix)
139 / Dm (7A) Green Atlas - Circulation
139 / Bm (10A) Inner & Outer - Eastway
134 / D#m (2A) Inner & Outer - Reaching
139 / Cm (5A) JamX & DeLeon - Can U Dig It? (Original Mix)
127 / Fm (4A) Kamaya Painters - Wasteland (Chab's 'Tribute To Bedrock' Remix)
138 / D#m (2A) Kyau vs. Albert - Velvet Morning (Aalto Remix)
130 / F#m (11A) Lemon8 - New York, New York (Out Of The Sanctuary Mix)
137 / C#m (12A) LNG - Inter City
129 / Fm (4A) Lolo - Extended Horizon
134 / D#m (2A) Lolo - Landscape
134 / Gm (6A) Lost Witness - Did I Dream (Song To The Siren) (DJ Tiësto Remix)
138 / Am (8A) M.I.D.O.R & Six4Eight feat. DJ Precision - Far East
135 / D (10B) Mark Lowndes - The Curse (Original Mix)
139 / Bm (10A) Mark Norman - Phantom Manor
132 / Gm (6A) Mark Otten - Mushroom Therapy (Armin van Buuren Remix)
129 / F (7B) Markus Schulz pres. Elevation - Clear Blue (Original Mix)
137 / D (10B) Masters & Nickson - Out There (5th Dimension)
139 / F#m (11A) Matt Darey - Electro Buzz
137 / F#m (11A) Matti Laamanen - Flakes (Original Mix)
141 / F (7B) Mauro Picotto & Riccardo Ferri - Codebreaker
134 / Em (9A) Mauro Picotto & Riccardo Ferri - New Time New Place
135 / Am (8A) Megamind - Taub (2002 Mix)
136 / Bm (10A) Midway - Inca
137 / Dm (7A) Mind One feat. Rena - Star For Me (Mind One's Original Instrumental Mix)
137 / Dm (7A) Mind One feat. Rena - Star For Me (Pulser's UK Vocal Mix)
137 / Am (8A) Miro - By Your Side (Ronski Speed Dub)
129 / F# (2B) Moogwai - Neon (Moogwai Club Mix)
140 / Cm (5A) Nick Lunn & YOMC pres. Tecno-Punk - Energize
142 / Am (8A) Nu NRG - Connective
141 / Dm (7A) Nu NRG - Supersonik Way
138 / D#m (2A) Octagen & Arizona - Profound
139 / Gm (6A) Octagen & Arizona - Starburst
135 / Am (8A) Oliver Lieb - Subsonik (Filterheadz Remix)
135 / Am (8A) Oliver Lieb - Subsonik (Original Mix)
134 / Fm (4A) Paul van Dyk - Connected
135 / Cm (5A) Paul van Dyk - Movement
144 / Gm (6A) Paul van Dyk - Out There
138 / D# (5B) Paul van Dyk feat. Hemstock & Jennings - Nothing But You (PvD Club Mix)
134 / Am (8A) Paul van Dyk feat. Second Sun - Crush (PvD Original Mix)
134 / Am (8A) Paul van Dyk feat. Second Sun - Crush (Vandit Club Mix)
138 / E (12B) Paul van Dyk feat. Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives
139 / A# (6B) Phil Green - Solaris
139 / F# (2B) Phil Green - Tribal Trance
137 / D#m (2A) Pulser - My Religion (Original Mix)
139 / Cm (5A) Rafferty & Kershaw - We Are Connected (Marcos pres. Sunfire Remix)
138 / Fm (4A) Rah - Glow (Airbase Remix)
134 / D# (5B) Rah - Wave (Airbase Original Mix)
136 / Dm (7A) Rank1 - Breathing (Airwave) (Breaks Dub Mix)
138 / Am (8A) Rapid Eye - Circa-Forever (Rapid Eye R.E.mix)
134 / Am (8A) Rio Klein - Fearless (Agnelli & Nelson Remix)
144 / E (12B) RMB - Redemption 2.0 (Club Version)
136 / A (11B) Robert Nickson - Spiral (Original Mix)
139 / G#m (1A) Ron van den Beuken - Timeless (Ron van den Beuken Remix)
137 / Gm (6A) Ronald van Gelderen - Proceed (Original Mix)
137 / Gm (6A) Ronald van Gelderen - Sustain (Original Extended Mix)
139 / F#m (11A) Scarab - Vagabond (Original Mix)
136 / Em (9A) Scott Bond vs. Solarstone - 3rd Earth (Original Mix)
139 / Gm (6A) Shockwave - Missing The Beat
131 / B (1B) Silencer - Believing (Dylan Rhymes Pressure Tex Mix)
138 / F (7B) Solid Sleep - Club Attach (Paul van Dyk TPOD Mix)
137 / G#m (1A) Sun Decade - Follow You (Original Dub Mix)
137 / Cm (5A) Super 8 - Alba
137 / Bm (10A) System F - Spaceman (Extended Mix)
136 / D# (5B) Taiko - Silence (Club Mix)
133 / Cm (5A) Thomas Schumacher - The Fortunate Ones (Humate Remix)
137 / A#m (3A) Tiësto - Traffic (Original Mix)
130 / F# (2B) Tilt feat. Maria Nayler - Headstrong (Relentless Vocal Mix)
134 / A (11B) Warrior - If You Want Me (Original Mix)
137 / D#m (2A) Witness of Wonder - Emotion In Motion
135 / Cm (5A) Z2 - I Want You (Original Mix)

Last edited by brian on Apr-21-2004 at 16:23

Good work my friend,

Robert Nickson - Spiral goes in A Major (11B), same goes for Envio -touched by the Sun.
These tracks mix well with stuff in F#minor (relevant minor aka 11A), also tracks in E and D (Major that is).

The numbers you were quoting are actually based on the camelot method of mixing which some people find easier to deal with. It's just another system of working out which tunes work and which ones don't and neither way is wrong or right. (Some people have been knonw to refer to it as DJing by numbers but that's just ignorance...)

Keep doing what you are doing as by comparing the ones I had atleast you seem to be on track.
Although I have been questioned a few times on my track keying I have never really had anyone able to prove that I'm wrong (and I am not trying to say I don't make mistakes, beleive me I have made a ton). But I'm pretty confident about my track keying.

I should update my list too as I have a lot of new music since the last.

Cheers
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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Robert Nickson - Spiral goes in A Major (11B), same goes for Envio -touched by the Sun.

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The numbers you were quoting are actually based on the camelot method of mixing

Is there a list somewhere of which keys correspond to which numbers?

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Keep doing what you are doing as by comparing the ones I had atleast you seem to be on track. Although I have been questioned a few times on my track keying I have never really had anyone able to prove that I'm wrong (and I am not trying to say I don't make mistakes, beleive me I have made a ton). But I'm pretty confident about my track keying.

Indeed, same here. When I got started, I keyed the ones you had previously keyed in our last e-mails, and discovered how easy it all was, and went ahead and did all the ones in that record case. I did have trouble with some of the more housey and progressive tunes like Kamaya Painters - Wasteland and Tilt - Headstrong where they didn't use the middle note in the chord...so in very few cases I couldn't tell if it was a major or minor, but ultimately went with whichever chord sounded best with the rest of the song. So of course I could be wrong on some of these as well

Just got done keying more...

139 / Cm (5A) 4 Strings - Diving (Original Mix)
139 / Cm (5A) 4 Strings - Diving (Original Vocal Mix)
136 / G# (4B) 4 Strings - Let It Rain (Driftwood Remix)
139 / G# (4B) 4 Strings - Let It Rain (E-Craig Remix)
137 / Fm (4A) 4 Strings - Let It Rain (Mystery Remix)
131 / Am (8A) Armin van Buuren feat. Ray Wilson - Yet Another Day (Attention Deficit Adderrol Session)
131 / Am (8A) Armin van Buuren feat. Ray Wilson - Yet Another Day (Attention Deficit Multi Task Remix)
139 / D#m (2A) Astura - Emotions
137 / D#m (2A) Astura - Orion's Belt
137 / G# (4B) Bas Van Veen - Lockdown (Original Mix)
139 / D#m (2A) Cern - The Message (Northern Mix)
139 / D#m (2A) Cern - The Message (Southern Mix)
134 / Cm (5A) Chakra - Doors (Original Mix)
139 / A#m (3A) Clokx - Clocks
137 / F#m (11A) Dany Wild - Night By Night
134 / G (9B) Desiderio - Starlight (Armin's Rising Star Mix)
139 / Em (9A) Desiderio - Starlight (Ferry Corsten Remix)
139 / Em (9A) Desiderio - Starlight (Ronald van Gelderen Remix)
141 / Gm (6A) Digital Pressure - Aftershock (Original Mix)
138 / Cm (5A) DJ Danjo & Rob Styles - Aragon (Intro Mix)
138 / Cm (5A) DJ Danjo & Rob Styles - Aragon (Original Mix)
138 / Cm (5A) DJ Danjo & Rob Styles - On The Verge
133 / Cm (5A) DJ Ernesto - Urban Cowboy
134 / G (9B) DJ Tiësto feat. Nicola Hitchcock - In My Memory (V-One Remix)
137 / Gm (6A) Eon - Pocket Damage
137 / C (8B) Eon - Talk To Me
137 / Am (8A) Goldenscan - Sunrise (Pulser 6am Remix)
137 / Am (8A) Goldenscan - Sunrise (Ronski Speed Remix)
139 / Am (8A) Igor S - Boomerang (Igor S Mix)
137 / F#m (11A) J.K. Walker - Hard
137 / F#m (11A) J.K. Walker - Trance
139 / A (11B) Jaron Inc - Overflow (Original Mix)
137 / Fm (4A) John Askew - Shadows After Dark
139 / Cm (5A) John Askew - The Door
134 / Em (9A) Karada - Last Flight (Robert Nickson Remix)
137 / D# (5B) Katana - Dukkha
137 / D#m (2A) Katana - Tribal Shock (A13)
141 / Em (9A) Koris vs. DJule - Belvedère (DJule Side)
135 / Em (9A) Koris vs. DJule - Belvedère (Mesh Side)
139 / Bm (10A) Mark Norman - Phantom Manor
133 / F (7B) Meo - Sleepless (John Johnson Remix)
135 / E (12B) Michelle Nicol - Time (Original Mix)
136 / F#m (11A) Midway - Monkey Forest
137 / A#m (3A) Musix - Cyber Desire
137 / Am (8A) Musix - Turn The Page
138 / D#m (2A) Ozone - Rock (Original Mix)
137 / Dm (7A) Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (PvD's E-Werk Club Mix)
139 / D#m (2A) Paul van Dyk - Words (For Love)
137 / Em (9A) Paul van Dyk feat. Saint Etienne - Tell Me Why (Vandit Mix)
137 / Gm (6A) Rapid Eye - Stealing Beauty (Rapid Eye R.E.mix)
137 / Gm (6A) Rapid Eye - Stealing Beauty (Ronald van Gelderen Mix)
137 / G#m (1A) Ronski Speed - Iris (John Askew Remix)
137 / G#m (1A) Ronski Speed - Iris (Original Mix)
134 / Fm (4A) Subsola - So Pure (Ferry Corsten Remix)
137 / Fm (4A) Subsola - So Pure (Matti Laamanen Remix)
137 / G (9B) System F - Out Of The Blue (Ferry Corsten's Second Edition)
137 / Em (9A) System F - Solstice
139 / A#m (3A) The Gift - The Seventh Day (M.I.K.E. Remix)
139 / A#m (3A) The Gift - The Seventh Day (Main Mix)
135 / Fm (4A) Three Drives - Carrera 2
129 / Am (8A) Tomcraft - Brainwashed (Laurent Konrad Remix)
137 / F (7B) Vincent & Quentin - Freeway (Ralphie B Dub Mix)
134 / D#m (2A) William Orbit - Barber's Adagio For Strings (Ferry Corsten Remix)
136 / F# (2B) William Orbit - Ravel's Pavane pour une Infante Défunte (Ferry Corsten Mix)
139 / Dm (7A) Yves Deruyter - Back To Earth (Rave Mix)


...and damn I had an absolute blast listening to some of these classics. Carrera 2, Sleepless (John Johnson Rmx), Doors, Monkey Forest, Solstice, etc.

Last edited by brian on Apr-21-2004 at 02:21

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Originally posted by brian 139 / D#m (2A) Cern - The Message (Northern Mix) 139 / D#m (2A) Cern - The Message (Southern Mix)

i thought both of these were in Em (9A) well mixmeister said that. its so ahrd to tell whats rite and what isnt. it sounded good when i mixed it into a 8A record :S or maybe my hearing is just fucked.

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ i thought both of these were in Em (9A) well mixmeister said that. its so ahrd to tell whats rite and what isnt. it sounded good when i mixed it into a 8A record :S or maybe my hearing is just fucked.

Hmm...I admit I'm not flawless, but Em sounds really out of place to me. Play a low D# at the beginning of the track when the bass just gets started, or alternatively, a D#m chord (D#, F#, A#) during the beginning of the breakdown when those softer string-like synths are going and you'll surely hear it

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Originally posted by brian Hmm...I admit I'm not flawless, but Em sounds really out of place to me. Play a low D# at the beginning of the track when the bass just gets started, or alternatively, a D#m chord (D#, F#, A#) during the beginning of the breakdown when those softer string-like synths are going and you'll surely hear it

Both mixes are in D#m (2A).

Cheers
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Originally posted by Unknown DJ i thought both of these were in Em (9A) well mixmeister said that. its so ahrd to tell whats rite and what isnt. it sounded good when i mixed it into a 8A record :S or maybe my hearing is just fucked.

Just out of interest what was the 8A you mixed. Seeing as mixmeister gets it wrong sometimes perhaps you mixed it into something actually is compatible like an A#m (like Ayu-M).

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Originally posted by Dirk W. Is someone taking all these posts and compiling one massive list? I doubt I will ever really use it, but it would be a shame for all this information to remain broken up or lost.....

Yeah, I've actually got them all in a DB...its currently got 362 in there, and will be opening up a site for it by the end of the week...searchable by artist, title, label, key, and bpm range.

when you do open it... please let us know!

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Originally posted by ChavezHype when you do open it... please let us know!

Sure thing!