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Originally posted by A_M_8 Any recent news after the 7th, Nell?

i dont know mate, all the reviews and stuff is in japanese (sp?) so im waiting for a translation!

hopefully thre will be a release date in there somewhere! ive got to get these!

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i went to the dj shop yesterday afternoon and i asked them about the technics release date. they said about a month or 2.

Will be interesting to see if the Technics mixer can match it with A&H, CD player looks nice but until you actually use it how can any sort of judgement be made?

WTF!!

When I first just threw my eyes on the picture in the middle I thought it was a regular 1210, but slightly photoshoped..! this is awesome!!

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Originally posted by Nell why? if you had 2 of these, and record your cds to the same frequency as vinyl (48,000), what advantage does vinyl have? answer: none! cd has too many to mention.

I think its time for a lesson in how digital media is composed. Firstly, cd's are digital media(duh), they take an analog waveform and sample it as to get as close to the true analog wave as possible. This is called sampling. the number of times you sample a given point of the waveform is called sampling rate. The information derived from that sample is then represented as 16 bits of digital information. In order to sample a given frequency accurately, you must sample it at least double the frequency of the highest note you want to hear. In our case human hearing can discern(supposedly) up to 22Khz or 22,000 cycles per second. So in effect a cd must double that frequency with a small amount of headroom 22Khz * 2= 44Khz + 4Khz(for better accuracy). No matter how many times you sample the waveform it is still represented by 16 bits of information. Newer technologies are looking at 22 or 24 bits, hence more information and a higher resolution.

Analog waveforms are continuous, digital waveforms are dis-continous so you must sample the waveform to get as much information as possible so then it can be reassembled with a digital audio converter(in every cd player and home computer)and played out of an analog device(speakers). So basically the comparison you are making is apples and oranges. Since cd's sample information you will always lose some information (just like in lossy compression). The question is can you hear the difference.




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Originally posted by mizzuno In order to sample a given frequency accurately, you must sample it at least double the frequency of the highest note you want to hear. In our case human hearing can discern(supposedly) up to 22Khz or 22,000 cycles per second. So in effect a cd must double that frequency with a small amount of headroom 22Khz * 2= 44Khz + 4Khz(for better accuracy).

Otherwise known as Nyquists theory of sampling!

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Originally posted by erdega I am still waiting for the dvd player, cds are simply not good enough as far as the sound performance but this is a good start.

those are some what out, its called dvd audio

I recently read that CD audio publishers want to change over to either dvd-audio or SACD (Super Audio CD) formats b/c of the quantity and extreme quality of the sound from these media.

technics, pioneer, and denon will have to release new versions or new CDJ decks altogether to make up for these added formats.

I tend to believe in vinyl b/c it's a steady way for DJs to encourage a single medium standard... being vinyl. There's too many technological advancements that are not audible to the avergae home listenner, and all that extra quality is muffled or distorted away when played in clubs, so what the hell is the point??

also.. who would buy a 5.1 dvd-audio system for their living room to hear "mc-mario's hits 2005" in 5.1 sound at 128 bit and 500000000KHZ???? Hell if it were for Veracocha's Carte Blanche 2004, then I'd buy anything!!!

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why can't you just use both?

both have hteir advantages and disadvantages.

get both and you can take advantage of all the advantages.

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Originally posted by Acid Circus Will be interesting to see if the Technics mixer can match it with A&H, CD player looks nice but until you actually use it how can any sort of judgement be made?

technics, direct drive platter nuff said

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Originally posted by montie why can't you just use both? both have hteir advantages and disadvantages. get both and you can take advantage of all the advantages.

i woudl do, but imo, these factors make a difference:

vinyl is larger and heavier (cds are small)
vinyl wears, cds dont (if you take care of them)
vinyl is more expensive..

i.e. to buy mike shiver - feelings from hooj.com you need to spend £8 to get both vinyls, where as you can spend £3.50 for the cdr, get an extra mix, and have the other cd advantages mentioned above.

thats the reason i do it. personalyl preference, i dont see any advantages of vinyl in the modern day as a format.

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