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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Is sex-ed not required in school anymore? MrS

as a matter of fact, it is not allowed in some schools and any program that receives federal money is forbidden to teach any method of birth control besides abstinence. teachers are not allowed to teach students that condoms prevent STDs. let's everyone thank our president bush for this one.

somehow i feel this is more of a discussion for the political debate forum. see ya there, MrS

edit: the federal government does not tell state schools that they cannot teach safe sex. it just tells them that they will not receive any federal funding if they do teach safe sex and what public school can afford that?
thanks occrider

Last edited by daffodil on Sep-05-2003 at 19:07

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Originally posted by daffodil as a matter of fact, it is not allowed in some schools and any program that receives federal money is forbidden to teach any method of birth control besides abstinence. teachers are not allowed to teach students that condoms prevent STDs. let's everyone thank our president bush for this one. somehow i feel this is more of a discussion for the political debate forum. see ya there, MrS

GO AMERICA!

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Originally posted by daffodil as a matter of fact, it is not allowed in some schools and any program that receives federal money is forbidden to teach any method of birth control besides abstinence. teachers are not allowed to teach students that condoms prevent STDs. let's everyone thank our president bush for this one. somehow i feel this is more of a discussion for the political debate forum. see ya there, MrS

Your post is somewhat misleading. Although stupid Bush has been pushing his retarded abstinence program on states by offering them federal funds for enticement, four federal statutes (The Department of Education Organization Act (Section 103a), the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (Section 14512), Goals 2000 (Section 319 (b), and the General Education Provisions Act (Section 438)) all prohibit the federal government from dictating state and local school curriculum standards. Thus being the federalist state that we are, the states have full control over what sex education programs their schools teach. So if Alabama wants to be as backwards as they want to be, we can't stop them ... oh well live and let live.

Edit: I just noticed your sig "I'm actually a woman and not too hard to look at" Hehe I like that line.

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Last edited by occrider on Sep-05-2003 at 18:55

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Originally posted by occrider ... all prohibit the federal government from dictating state and local school curriculum standards. Thus being the federalist state that we are, the states have full control over what sex education programs their schools teach. So if Alabama wants to be as backwards as they want to be, we can't stop them ... oh well live and let live.

absolutely, the federal government cannot tell state school what to teach, but it can with hold funding if things do not go the way they want. i didn't make the connection clear enough in my earlier post, i'm going to edit it and explain here: if the federal government doesn't like what is being taught in schools (i.e. safe sex), it simply with holds funding. public schools are in such a sad state right now that they have no choice but to be purse-string puppets

bush has a similar thing going with international aid groups. the federal government will not fund any aid groups that counsel women on abortion and suggest it as an option, regardless of whether the group actually performs abortions.

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Originally posted by daffodil absolutely, the federal government cannot tell state school what to teach, but it can with hold funding if things do not go the way they want. i didn't make the connection clear enough in my earlier post, i'm going to edit it and explain here: if the federal government doesn't like what is being taught in schools (i.e. safe sex), it simply with holds funding. public schools are in such a sad state right now that they have no choice but to be purse-string puppets

The original bill put forth by congress provides additional funding for schools' sex education program if they teach abstinence. So it's not so much a cut in funding that the federal gov't provides in other educational areas so much as it is some schools do not get their sex education programs funded by the federal government. Which does suck for poor schools, the ones likely to need comprehensive programs the most.

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bush has a similar thing going with international aid groups. the federal government will not fund any aid groups that counsel women on abortion and suggest it as an option, regardless of whether the group actually performs abortions.

Yea that was a pretty retarded move. At least the Africa aids package covers contraceptives as a method of aids prevention.

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heh, typical. just when i think i know something occrider corrects me

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Originally posted by daffodil heh, typical. just when i think i know something occrider corrects me

It's not a good way to make friends

I'm this guy ---> one big preachy wind bag that nobody listens to hehe.

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Originally posted by occrider It's not a good way to make friends I'm this guy ---> one big preachy wind bag that nobody listens to hehe.

actually i have a lot of admiration for you. on the political board, yours are about the only ones i'll read thoroughly because they're researched, thought out and considered. just about everyone else has passionate biases (and many for good reason) and a flagrant blindness to "the other side."

i am now going to wander TA while blushing...

edit: i meant the "typical" comment as a compliment

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Originally posted by daffodil i am now going to wander TA while blushing...

COUGH* love is in the air * COUGH
ITs a moray baby!

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Originally posted by daffodil actually i have a lot of admiration for you. on the political board, yours are about the only ones i'll read thoroughly because they're researched, thought out and considered. just about everyone else has passionate biases (and many for good reason) and a flagrant blindness to "the other side." i am now going to wander TA while blushing... edit: i meant the "typical" comment as a compliment

I'm red like a tomato.

Course now you're gonna have me walking around all day feeling like this guy -->

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Hey hey! take the flirting to the PM.

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Originally posted by daffodil although i'm tempted, i won't flame you for your ignorance because nobody knows everything. gay people did not "start" AIDS, the HIV virus that causes AIDS developed in africa. it developed from transmissions between humans and monkeys but was only virulent to humans. some theories hypothesize that HIV is a mutation of the ebola virus. monkeys are not harmed when they are infected with the HIV virus. comparison: rats carried the plague all the hell over europe during the middle ages and it was transmitted to humans when fleas that had bitten infected rats bit a human. no one knows why it didn't kill rats and was so devastating to humans, but it's the same deal with HIV between monkeys and humans. if i have anything wrong here, please correct me because i went on memory and didn't double check anything.

I'll also add that there are different strains of HIV, which suggests that HIV has been introduced (crossed over the species barrier) into the human population more than once... 3 times i think? HIV-A HIV-B and HIV-C. I dunno, it was brought up in one of my 1st year biology lectures.

And the reason why HIV and AIDS is so damaging to the human population is because it takes a LONG time for it to kill its host. This allows the virus time to spread, and now the whole world has this problem.

On the other hand, a more "lethal" and contagious virus, such as ebola, which quickly kills its host and is transmitted by bodily fluids, is easier to control and contain, since the hosts die off within two weeks: not enough time for it to spread.

I guess AIDS became such a huge epidemic for the gay population because of their high-risk sexual behaviours.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec gay people started aids

hehe i think he was jokin