The whole legal crap is indeed disgusting - it's not only hurting ordinary citizens, but the whole subpoena process is severely hurting the ISPs, especially the small ones.

But it's pretty damn hard to download a full album online. Most of that kind of trading tends to be done through private contacts and FTP, which the RIAA will never track down anyway. So it's funny that they liken the loss of their CD sales to downloads of single tracks - it's essentially proving the one most important point that people have been tossing at the record companies for decades - nobody wants to shell out $20 to a buy a 75 minute CD with 2 tracks they like and 70 minutes of filler!

Let's face the facts, though. The RIAA knows this. They know that what they're doing is utter bullshit. However, when the US government farted out the DMCA, the RIAA immediately saw it as a convenient way to maximize their profits in a slumping economy. If it wasn't for the DMCA, none of this would be happening, so I think some of the blame should be placed on the ignorant assholes in congress that allowed that "amendment" to be put in place.

The RIAA, as slimy as it is, just did the smart thing and took advantage of poor policy to cheat the public. This is nothing new - all big companies do it - it's perhaps slightly more "in-your-face" than it used to be, but they've been screwing the public out of their hard-earned cash for decades!

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Originally posted by DigiNut The whole legal crap is indeed disgusting - it's not only hurting ordinary citizens, but the whole subpoena process is severely hurting the ISPs, especially the small ones. But it's pretty damn hard to download a full album online. Most of that kind of trading tends to be done through private contacts and FTP, which the RIAA will never track down anyway. So it's funny that they liken the loss of their CD sales to downloads of single tracks - it's essentially proving the one most important point that people have been tossing at the record companies for decades - nobody wants to shell out $20 to a buy a 75 minute CD with 2 tracks they like and 70 minutes of filler! Let's face the facts, though. The RIAA knows this. They know that what they're doing is utter bullshit. However, when the US government farted out the DMCA, the RIAA immediately saw it as a convenient way to maximize their profits in a slumping economy. If it wasn't for the DMCA, none of this would be happening, so I think some of the blame should be placed on the ignorant assholes in congress that allowed that "amendment" to be put in place. The RIAA, as slimy as it is, just did the smart thing and took advantage of poor policy to cheat the public. This is nothing new - all big companies do it - it's perhaps slightly more "in-your-face" than it used to be, but they've been screwing the public out of their hard-earned cash for decades!

alt.binaries.cds.complete and stuff like that make it sooo easy. plus .audio.lossless is a new one that have 30 meg files and are PERFECT like 850 rated songs that have PERFECT 5.0 channel sound , its like youre in the studio!!!!

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Originally posted by Orbax alt.binaries.cds.complete and stuff like that make it sooo easy. plus .audio.lossless is a new one that have 30 meg files and are PERFECT like 850 rated songs that have PERFECT 5.0 channel sound , its like youre in the studio!!!!

That's all well and good, but those are newsgroups - it doesn't fit into the "file sharing" user base category that the RIAA is actually suing, which is basically limited to KaZaA.

I think they would have a tough time targeting newsgroups anyway, since many NNTP services base their entire business around user anonymity.

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12 year olds get it in the butt too, trust me

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Originally posted by Orbax 12 year olds get it in the butt too, trust me

if i were a top guy at RIAA i would be vewy vewy scared.
i mean, theres GOTTA be some psycho waiting outside theyre office with a shotgun or something.
right??
*hides large object inside coat*
"fuck em, fuck em all!"

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well first of all it's totally retarded second of all she is under 18 AKA : The press is FORBIDDEN to publish under 18 years of age criminals names... Well at least that's the law.

i don't think they started suing ppl to get their money back.it's not about the money,they're trying to scare ppl so they won't share ne files and no shares=no downloads (it's not right but i'm quite sure that's what they think).wtf?are they blind?they make ppl furious,everyone hates 'em.and even one person who would normally buy a cd but doesn't cuz of RIAA anti-mp3 tactics is loss.ffs can't they see they have to release quality in affordable prices?that's the only way the sales will go up!

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^ Actually, it's 100% about the money. They know that file sharing isn't hurting their business (as opposed to the economy, their lowered volume of production, and their crappy quality and fed up customers); they've simply capitalized on the DMCA and decided to pull in a few extra bucks to compensate for slumping sales.

I suppose you're right in saying that they didn't sue to get their money back, but keep in mind that back is the operative word there.

When you're in big business, you rake in the cash from wherever you can find it. Since your average Joe Schmoe doesn't have the means to fight a lawsuit against the RIAA, it's practically guaranteed that they'll settle out of court and offer a fistful of cash. It's not scare tactics, it's simply a get-rich-quick scheme that can only be pulled off by a gigantic conglomerate like the RIAA.

They've found a new money tree - there must be millions of people sharing these files, and because of the DMCA, it's costing them next to nothing (relative to what they make from the suits) to pluck its leaves. Think about it - if they even got 1000 people at $2000 each, that's $2 million right there!

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i9 just got sued for 13 dikkars vy the riaa wooooooooooooo oh nooooooOOOOO babyyyyyyyyy ehehheheheheh jordany drink your beer faster maaaan geta buzzzzzzzzz ssoooootttttttt

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many great points here.....i wish this topic evolved to something more