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Originally posted by djinnom Album sucked but PvD live is better than ever.

i agree

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Yeah, not too impressed with reflections... but in his defense, he did set the bar a little high with Out There and Back (deserves caps). I agree that his sound really hasn't changed all that much. I saw him at Space this weekend and he blew the roof off, best live experience I've had with him... so I agree his live sets are killer. I do think he could add a little more variety in them, but deserving to be at least in the top 5, I DEFINITELY agree... not past his prime.

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you guys clown everybody...i have not seen AT LEAST one DJ who has

not been dissed on this forum. people make fun of tiesto cuz he has

an engineer...people clown mike cuz of his somewhat repetitive synths

from time to time. who's next? john o'bir, j'00'f?

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Originally posted by WestCoastTrancin' you guys clown everybody...i have not seen AT LEAST one DJ who has not been dissed on this forum. people make fun of tiesto cuz he has an engineer...people clown mike cuz of his somewhat repetitive synths from time to time. who's next? john o'bir, j'00'f? -reZ

well it is a forum, what do you want everyoen to do, go OMG I LOVE **** THEYRE THE BEST in every fucking thread?

and people make fun of tiesto because he is "number 1 dj in the world" but cant beatmatch...

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Originally posted by arturob ??? loyalty?? maybe if they'd pay me for promotioanl services, then i might consider lol. art

it seems like THAT statement explains a lot...
and for someone of that thinking to call pvd commercial and poppy is pretty ironic.

he has the right to produce whatever he wants. the music he plays live is barely commercial and poppy, you of all people know this, even if a couple of them are songs from reflections! a good bit of pvd's fave tracks are not in the record boxes of others so they couldnt be commercial in any sense of the word.... don't make unfounded comments about pvd just to promote what you like (or who pays you...!)

Don't know if this thread really needs my input but I'm gonna blurb a bit anyway (yes, I'm at work). People allergic to long rants are advised to stop reading here.

I've been a huge PvD fan since the release of X-Mix 1: The MFS Trip back in 1993 and his collaboration with Cosmic Baby under the "Visions of Shiva" guise. I saw him live for the first time in 1994 and since then I've been enjoying his sets many, many times. "Out there and back" was, for me, the high point of his career (although "We're alive" is a track I never really will accept). For being a full length album from an electronic dance artist it was exceptionally tight.

Anyhow, with his latest album there have been a clear change of direction from this top DJ, something that has been stated numerous times in this thread already. As a DJ who used to cane his tracks everytime I got the chance, this direction feels like it's going the wrong way. I cannot help feeling he's trying to do an "Oakenfold".

Let me explain. PvD has been on top of his game in club land for a very long time and honestly, there isn't much more he can accomplish that he hasn't already done. Except for maybe hit that first position on the ever so coveted DJ list. The logical thing then is to expand into new territories and domains. Trying to cross over to a different audience were there is more room for growth and development. And yes, that would mean going a bit more mainstream. Doing soundstracks, getting more radio airplay and trying to get respect as an artist outside the clubbing world. Although his tracks still works on the dancefloor they have been moving towards something that's equally suited for just listening. Hence, the tempo drop and more use of vocals in his tracks.

This is something I myself won't be spinning as a DJ, however I can respect him as an artist producing sounds to which I can listen to and enjoy, but not necessarily dance to.

I think it's a very logical progression for an artist such as him and you'll probably be seeing this many times, with different top producers. If Tiesto hasn't already begun I predict he'll be doing the same in 2004.

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I personally think PVD past his use by date a long time ago, when i look back at the earlier stuff he did late 90's its wicked. His mixing isnt terribly amazing and he doesnt really do it for me at all.

Bog standard trance music.


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dj irish, that is amazing that you have seen him live in 1994! i imagine you must have seen him a few times then in the mid and upper 90s.... i cant imagine what that would have been like. wow, i wish i could have that experience....too bad i was only 13 yrs old in 1994

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Originally posted by Lost Inhibition why does everyone consider reflections a bad album? its pretty deep and mellow, a side of pvd we dont normally see when he performs live.

that's just horseshit.and for those who dunno what horseshit is, it's the shit that comes from a horse!

seriously d00d, this sounds like a lil PvD fan trying to defend his idol though knowing the album sucked indeed


and even me, as a pvdfan (duh..and armin, too!) must say that the album sucked ass except for the tracks which have been released so far (they were good )

I agree with Dj_Irish.

Even though Paul is going into some commericial territory, there's really not too many other directions for him to go.

I would, however, like to see him do an album of techno-influenced productions.