Britny sucks Britny -----> Die bitch die lol

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Originally posted by DJ MG Britny sucks Britny -----> Die bitch die lol

Hope she sucks me thats 4 sure...
BT ROCKS.. hehehe peace

Just found that BT has already made Brit's trax. It's not yet known if these trax will be on her next CD (due to come in November) but.. he's done'em! Let's see what's with these. You guys will still respect him if the trax aren't so ...?

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chek out these t-shirts!

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haha! (Oakie fans don't get pissed! the T-shirt has nothin' to do with BT except his name, the design is made by some1 else!)

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Anyone heard this sound yet? or heard anything new on this topic?? Fukin wanna see what the "POP" princess has done... with the Trance King...

BT Still rocks, no matter who he works with..

(^^^^^^-respect to U! BT is REAL)

Haven't found out nothin' yet... U can check it on this site , but I don't think they have updated it yet (since the post I made). Yet, things will sure get straightened.

Oh, I hate the mother fukin' 'NSYNC didn't said "thanx" to BT for producin' the song (at TeenChoice Awards). It's prolly they wouldn't have had the success w/o his help.

Anyhow, the only thing that could change my impression of BT is the album to come. But considering the stuff his done lately (scoring enough movies with great sondtrax), that probably won't happen.

So KSA!

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Originally posted by havok118 because he got sick of the same formula in EVERY damn trance song. He absolutely hates the huge buildup and cheesy synth lines employed by alot of the songs everyone on this board loves.

hahahah i love you man i couldnt have put it better myself
theres too much of this cheesy shit around and its beyond me how people can possibly like it.

its also good to see you morons slamming a song before you have even heard it. most of you arent even sure if it exists yet! you should all get off your high horses and judge a song by the actual song, not by presumption and guesswork. dont be so pathetic. a lot of you seemed to like that madonna song when above and beyond did a remix.

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Originally posted by Leigh its also good to see you morons slamming a song before you have even heard it. most of you arent even sure if it exists yet! you should all get off your high horses and judge a song by the actual song, not by presumption and guesswork. dont be so pathetic. a lot of you seemed to like that madonna song when above and beyond did a remix.

Some one is gonna blast u for that, im just waitin for some on to do it.... HaHaHa

I aint bagged the track yet, i just wanna hear the track.. fuck what other ppl think. i wanna hear it 4 myself

Leigh, I can tell you exactly why we can judge it already.

If BT does decide to do a track with Brittney Spears, then we can immediately assume the following two things:

• Firstly that BT is not going to have a great deal of input into the creative process. If he were to demand the ability to do what he wanted with the track, Brittney's managers would've pulled out immediately, because the last thing they want to do is take a risk with the track. They don't have time for art, they only have time for money.
  
• So, as a direct result of the above point, this track will undoubtedly be every bit as commercial as the N-Sync track., and every other piece of pop trash on the market

Now I'm going to try and make myself as unambiguous as possible when it comes to explaining what "commercial" means. Commercial has become a word that we use far too often with regard to music, but it should only really be used where the main aim of the track is to make money. Not to pleasure the writer or the listener, not to produce a piece of art, not to inspire people or to fill them with emotion, but to shift as many pieces of digital plastic discs as possible. Seeing as "pop" music sells the most CD's, and teenage girls represent the vast chunk of these sales, we immediately have a lowest common denominator. The key, then, when you release a piece of commercial music - which, if you remember my definition, exists only to make money - is to make sure that you don't lose the teenage girl "lowest common denominator" market. It doesn't matter if no other demographics buy your cd, so long as this one does you're on you're way to a small fortune.

So how do you make sure that your track appeals to the lowest common denominator? Two things that I can think of: simplicity and familiarity. Simplicity because teenage girls (for the most part) lack the sensitivity, ability or cognitive ability to be able to extract meaning from complex music (i.e. they need the words to tell them what meaning they should get from the music) and familiarity, because if you try to do something new, it's likely to go over their heads, and they'll just think "I don't get it, I don't remember MTV telling me that this type of music is cool, so I'd better not touch it otherwise my friends won't think I'm hip anymore".

So this is the territory that BT is going to have to negotiate if he collaborates with Brittney. No room for creativity, he must produce a track to a moulded formula with little room to manouvre, that appeals to teenage girls and not necessarily to anyone else. You tell me if you're still thinking it could become a progressive-thinking trance stormer, Leigh.

So, if you agree with the logic above, we can expect a fairly mediocre track as a result of any collaboration between BT and Brittney. Feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong, but if we get anything else I'll be very suprised.

Last edited by Renegade on Aug-22-2001 at 14:54

I didn't read through the whole post but I think I got the idea...uhmmmmmmm the question seem to be do you think he's selling out????? . I gotta laugh at that.....He's an amazing producer who was first and formost trained in classical music which is why his riffs are so up lifting.....I loved dreaming, mercury and solace two amazing tracks......Is he selling out...No.....he can produce for whoever he wants I don't care as long as when he releases his next album that it is Quality...After all we all gotta get paid not only is this guy creating amazing music on his own. Now he's getting paid to produce the sound of others. I'm sure that he's getting his $$$$$$ and all the power to him....might as well take advantage and get what you can when you can.....

As for the track I'll wait and see but as for me I'll be watching far more intensely for his next album release...

cheers M8's

Oh and you mentioned the A&B remix of Madonna?

There is a big difference between remixing someone and collaborating with them (and their managers, writers, producers, accounts etc.) from the very beginning of the creative process.

BT is tied down because he has to produce a track to the conventions that Brittney's management and record label are interested in, not the sort of track he would normally (i.e. money aside) be interested in producing. They're not going to let him take Brittney aside for a week or two (when she could be making money for them) in order to produce something for arts sake, that may not even make it into the top 40. Collaborating with an artist from the beginning and conforming entirly to their standards just so you can get your name on the record sleeve next to theirs is called "selling out". Because BT has sacrificed his values just to make a bit of a name for himself (best case scenario) or to make a lot of cash for himself (worst case scenario) is selling out, there really is no other way of justifying this....... though of course BT is trying to justify what he's done with N-Sync as a purely artistic move (because they are "cool people", afterall....) which is the main reason why I'm so pissed off at him.

Now the difference between this and doing a remix is simple: while here you are very constrained in what you can and can't do, with remixes you can basically do whatever the hell you like. Just think about all those Vengaboys remixes that sound nothing like the original. This is still art because you have absolute freedom to put whatever take you like on the track: regardless of how much you are getting paid, it's pretty difficult to say that you're selling out if what you're producing is genuinely a piece of music that is still representative of your values and was exactly the kind of sound that you would have wanted to produce if money wasn't an issue. A&B had an absolute freedom to put their own spin on the Madonna track (i.e. apply their own values to it), so we can't really say that they're selling out because their production was true to their previous works, so, presumably, was also representative of the kind of art that they are interested in producing, while remaining true to themselves as artists. We can't say this about BT and his N-Sync production.

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theres too much of this cheesy shit around and its beyond me how people can possibly like it.

So what exactly do you describe his last piece of work as then? The future of trance? A forward-thinking progressive masterpiece? I certainly wouldn't. In fact, ironically, I'd call it "Pop".

I have no respect for BT anymore, the guy sold what he believed in to get his name on a pop cd, and if he wishes to do that then fine, but I sure as hell have lost enough faith in him to be certain that I'll never buy anything with his name on it again. I mean, it's certainly not like he needs the money anymore.......