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Originally posted by arctic Hell yes, give them the same rights as everyone else. btw, i'm talking about civil marriges here, I don't give a stuff about ones sanctioned by religion, they mean nothing to me.

lol they already have the same rights everyone else does. Did you not know that?

Anyway, I disagree with homosexuality. The lifestyle is very hazardous to ones health.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 lol they already have the same rights everyone else does. Did you not know that? Anyway, I disagree with homosexuality. The lifestyle is very hazardous to ones health.

They don't have the right to get married. Therefore they do not have the same rights as everyone else.

How can you 'disagree' with it? Homosexuals don't choose to be gay, many wish they weren't due to the discrimination that they face every day. Wether they're born gay, or they're 'turned' gay by society (I don't believe this has been conclusivley established as of yet) makes no difference.

The fact is that when someone is gay, that's that, you can't change it. How can you disagree with something like that?

Your point about it being hazardous to one's health is a bit hard to stomach as well. In what way is it any more dangerous than say, hetrosexuallity? If you're reffering to AIDS (Which I strongly suspect you are), then why not get up in arms about the way it is currently spreading in Africa & some parts of Asia? That's far more 'hazardous' than the levels in the gay population. Further to that, hetrosexuals are perfectly capable of contracting AIDS as well, it isn't exactly limited to gay people. If it isn't AIDS that you're reffering to, i'd be very interested to learn what to what it is that you are.

Either way, after that whole 'Christianity isn't a religion' fiasco, it's rather hard to take anything you say seriously.

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Originally posted by arctic How can you 'disagree' with it? Homosexuals don't choose to be gay, many wish they weren't due to the discrimination that they face every day. Wether they're born gay, or they're 'turned' gay by society (I don't believe this has been conclusivley established as of yet) makes no difference.

I love it when people try to blame society for their own shortcomings. Take some responsibility.

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Originally posted by Shakka I love it when people try to blame society for their own shortcomings. Take some responsibility.

If I understand that correctly, then you consider homosexuality to be a shortcoming?

Come to think of it, I haven't read a lot of studies about wether there's a gay 'gene' or not, all I know about it is what I know from talking to a gay freind, and stuff i've seen in the newspaper. Any links you might have would be great.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Anyway, I disagree with homosexuality. The lifestyle is very hazardous to ones health.

Lesbians have lower rates of STDs than do gay men or heterosexuals.

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Originally posted by arctic They don't have the right to get married. Therefore they do not have the same rights as everyone else.

They do have the same rights. They are humans just like the rest of us,They deserve no more rights than the rest of us. Capice?

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How can you 'disagree' with it? Homosexuals don't choose to be gay, many wish they weren't due to the discrimination that they face every day. Wether they're born gay, or they're 'turned' gay by society (I don't believe this has been conclusivley established as of yet) makes no difference.

Easily,You aren't born gay. You choose to be that way. I'm against the lifestyle,It's not good for anyone.

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The fact is that when someone is gay, that's that, you can't change it. How can you disagree with something like that?

Simple, You can change being gay. There have been many that have come out of the lifestyle. They are glad they have too. Might want to hear them speak sometime,It would help you understand things better.

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Your point about it being hazardous to one's health is a bit hard to stomach as well. In what way is it any more dangerous than say, hetrosexuallity? If you're reffering to AIDS (Which I strongly suspect you are), then why not get up in arms about the way it is currently spreading in Africa & some parts of Asia? That's far more 'hazardous' than the levels in the gay population. Further to that, hetrosexuals are perfectly capable of contracting AIDS as well, it isn't exactly limited to gay people. If it isn't AIDS that you're reffering to, i'd be very interested to learn what to what it is that you are.

You know nothing of pain in the stomach,Do not get me started on that subject.Alright? I really don't want to talk about it..


It's hazardous to your health. It's not just to your health,it's emotionally hazardous. I'm sure there are many here who disagree with me,and that's fine. But, at the moment I really don't care, I have way more important things that are happening right now,and if I don't concentrate on them, things might get worse.

You know why it's spreading in Africa? They are so promiscuous. We're talking orgies homosexuality...the whole nine yards. That's why they have AID's spreading like they do. Deny it,or believe it.That's up to you.

You know how hetrosexuals obtianed AID's? Bisexuals. It started in the homosexual lifestyle,then bisexuals passed it onto hetrosexuals.

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Either way, after that whole 'Christianity isn't a religion' fiasco, it's rather hard to take anything you say seriously.

Believe what you will, But that's your choice and your problem. Not mine. I'm not pussyfooting around,are you?

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Oh to add...... According to CCD statistics(I think it's CCD)
A gay man's average lifespan is only into his 40's.
Where as a straight man's average lifespan is into his 70's.

Food for thought here.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 They do have the same rights. They are humans just like the rest of us,They deserve no more rights than the rest of us. Capice? Easily,You aren't born gay. You choose to be that way. I'm against the lifestyle,It's not good for anyone. Simple, You can change being gay. There have been many that have come out of the lifestyle. They are glad they have too. Might want to hear them speak sometime,It would help you understand things better. You know nothing of pain in the stomach,Do not get me started on that subject.Alright? I really don't want to talk about it.. It's hazardous to your health. It's not just to your health,it's emotionally hazardous. I'm sure there are many here who disagree with me,and that's fine. But, at the moment I really don't care, I have way more important things that are happening right now,and if I don't concentrate on them, things might get worse. You know why it's spreading in Africa? They are so promiscuous. We're talking orgies homosexuality...the whole nine yards. That's why they have AID's spreading like they do. Deny it,or believe it.That's up to you. You know how hetrosexuals obtianed AID's? Bisexuals. It started in the homosexual lifestyle,then bisexuals passed it onto hetrosexuals. Believe what you will, But that's your choice and your problem. Not mine. I'm not pussyfooting around,are you?

You must be the most brainwashed person ive seen on these boards. Are you trying to be sarcastically stupid? If you arent, its Ok, you are 17...i understand your highschool mentality.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Oh to add...... According to CCD statistics(I think it's CCD) A gay man's average lifespan is only into his 40's. Where as a straight man's average lifespan is into his 70's. Food for thought here.

Please.. lets see this statistic. Im sure you have it around... ahhahahahaahahha

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WhoaNellie1487: I delcare you to be an idoit.

"homosexual orgies". Yah that's what's causing all the aids in africa. You honestly have no clue do you? The AIDs crisis in africa is between hetrosexual people. Perhaps you'd do yourself a favour and read up? In some of the african countries the percentage of population with AIDS is ~40%. Based on 40% of the people in that country with AIDS, using your math the country would be composed 40% of homosexual males, with an average life span of less than 40 years?

You need to give your head a shake.

As far as saying that gays have the same rights as straight people, you shoot yourself in the foot everytime you type. If they don't have the right to be married then they don't have the same rights. END OF STORY.

I love how you're the authority on all things homosexual. You're an expert on what makes people gay too obviosly.

I'll tell you something, when I was 13yrs old I HATED blacks, I HATED ASIANS, I HATED GAYS, I mean hated them with all my being. Then my world changed. I met black people, they became my friends. I met asian people, they became my frinds... gasp, I even met homosexuals and they became my friends. Looking back on it I think I was so scared of what I didn't know. Look at them, they're not the same as me, they must be evil if they're not the same as me. Wow was I ever wrong.

I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Martin Luther King Jr.

"but by the content of their character" that line sums it all up. You are one afraid little boy. I'm sorry for you, one day you'll look back like I do now and shake your head at how foolish you once were.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You must be the most brainwashed person ive seen on these boards. Are you trying to be sarcastically stupid? If you arent, its Ok, you are 17...i understand your highschool mentality.

Hmm,That's a personal attack.That's not a part of a debate.
Just thought I'd inform you.
I'm not brainwashed,I think just fine,Thank you.
I'm not 17, Where'd you hear that bull?

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Originally posted by failsafe WhoaNellie1487: I delcare you to be an idoit. "homosexual orgies". Yah that's what's causing all the aids in africa. You honestly have no clue do you? The AIDs crisis in africa is between hetrosexual people. Perhaps you'd do yourself a favour and read up? In some of the african countries the percentage of population with AIDS is ~40%. Based on 40% of the people in that country with AIDS, using your math the country would be composed 40% of homosexual males, with an average life span of less than 40 years? You need to give your head a shake. As far as saying that gays have the same rights as straight people, you shoot yourself in the foot everytime you type. If they don't have the right to be married then they don't have the same rights. END OF STORY. I love how you're the authority on all things homosexual. You're an expert on what makes people gay too obviosly. I'll tell you something, when I was 13yrs old I HATED blacks, I HATED ASIANS, I HATED GAYS, I mean hated them with all my being. Then my world changed. I met black people, they became my friends. I met asian people, they became my frinds... gasp, I even met homosexuals and they became my friends. Looking back on it I think I was so scared of what I didn't know. Look at them, they're not the same as me, they must be evil if they're not the same as me. Wow was I ever wrong. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Martin Luther King Jr. "but by the content of their character" that line sums it all up. You are one afraid little boy. I'm sorry for you, one day you'll look back like I do now and shake your head at how foolish you once were.

Takes one to know one. You don't know jack squat about me. I think I'd like to keep it that way,If you don't mind.

But,I didn't say homosexual orgies, I said orgies.

I do have a clue, I've read my news. Have you read yours?
You really have to do your research,I've done mine.

You are getting your who and your do mixed up here. Everyone always does.:/

So,Let me make it clear for you.Just as I have several times for others.I don't hate homosexuals. They are people to,and I've recongnized that. But, I do not agree with their lifestyle. I strongly disagree with it. I don't have Asians,and I most certainly don't hate black people either.

How is it,That people can condemn Christianity,and beliefs in God..But the second you speak out against homosexuality it's wrong. If you are going to show respect towards homosexuality,you should equally show respect towards Christianity and beliefs in God.

Homosexuals do have the same rights. You'd have to be blind not to see that. Marriage is a sacred thing,not to be allowed in the homosexual lifestyle. That's my personal opinion,and many share it. Many people disagree. You pick which you want. That's fine with me.


lol, I'm not a boy,and I'm not afraid of this. Why would I be?

I won't shake my head at my foolishness, I'm not being foolish. I've done my research,I've talked to my parents about this. I've been taught morals, and well that sums it up. If you disagree with me,that is your personal problem, or issue. Whichever you prefer. I just stated my point. I showed my facts. That's all I can do. Now,If you will please let me get back to what's important right now.

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