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djeternal
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Bayside, Ny

I think all the cdj bashing was intended towards people who only use cd's. Im pretty sure every1 knows that the big names use cd's ALONG with thier vinyls. Please stop all the "noob" talk. lolz.


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noikeee
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: lost and wandering looking for directions.

well, vinyl is more personal, has a better feel, looks better, makes up for a better atmosphere etc etc ; but it is an old technology without future. i think the future will bring us different wild designs for cdj's/vinyl emulators with endless possibilities. seems like many fear people without skill will take advantage of those technologies and get undeserved recognition.. but nowadays that already happens with vinyl - look at tiesto and half of the dj mag top 10 and compare their skills to the top techno dj's like beyer & co.

i think the problem is all in the mentality. why in hell there is such strong hate against cdj's? the only reason that i can think of that makes sense is that many of these cdj's are newbies who download all their music and don't support the artists. if you play vinyl it's cause you bought the music, no doubt. but if someone buys all their cd's and mixes them with cdj's, shouldn't they get recognition as well? i'm not a dj, don't have any experience mixing with hardware, but seems it isn't harder to mix with vinyls than with cd's - it's just a matter of personal preference, right?

in the future the mentality will change, without any doubt. people will accept cdj's. and i go even more far - one day people will accept dj's that give the beatmatching task to the computers and focus in something else, like sampling, looping, etc, even producing live! but by that time, the TA's will be 50 year olds that just keep moaning that 'in our time everything was better, we used vinyl, that was so cool'. just like our parents say that in their time everything was better, and Bee Gees were teh kewl.

and i agree on stuff like final scratch being the next big thing.


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mavo
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: TX TA #Twanky!

ok guyz truthfully it hurts you to think and recognize that digital is the future. Every DJ will evolve to digital and that's the end of it. Even though 2 or 3 of you will stay faithfull to vinyl who gives a shit. Your #1 DJ will use cd's.

greetings,
Mario .

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physe
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Edmonton, Canada

I don't understand those people who are saying that vinyls will never die. It doesn't matter how much you want to use vinyls oer CDs if these record labels keep folding then there won't be any vinyls to play. You aren't even going to have a choice in the matter, which is why buying the music is so important for the electronic music scene. If people continue to stop buying the music then vinyls aren't going to last much longer.

I'm sure there are many on these boards that are not DJs, myself included at the moment. I don't have turntables but that still doesn't stop me from buying the music. Even though I don't have turntables I have about 40 vinyls because as far as I know, around here you can't buy CD singles. I will admit though that I do download music, but as a tool to help me decide whether or not I want to buy the music. If I like the song I will buy it once it reaches my local record store but it normally takes a while for new tunes to get here and there is still stuff that I miss altogether but at least I'm making an honest effort to support the artists, which is essential for the survival of vinyl.

Cheers.

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T_2199
life on mars ?



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: An der schönen Stadt am Main (Frankfurt)

quote:
Originally posted by YellowG555

If you think there is a difference in sound quality, you should lend your ear to the mountain rescue so they can use your ear to listen for trapped avalanche survivors. For all intents and purposes, over a big sound system in a club or event, you can't really tell the difference between cd and vinyl.


Haha what´s up with your ears man ??

I hear a difference between mp3 and vinyl even on my 4.1 home speakers.. The different is not that big but anyways..

CDs can´t beat Vinyls in soundquality..


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T_2199
life on mars ?



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: An der schönen Stadt am Main (Frankfurt)

quote:
Originally posted by theb
like common, pvd for example puts no effort into his sets no more with his entire set played from his laptop.



PvD said once he remasters his tracks on the laptop again so he needs 45 minutes for each track.. Just because it sounds a bit better.


I guess that´s some effort...


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Shad0wmaster
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Montreal

Red Jerry is totally wrong about that. CDJs may continue to gain popularity but vinyl is the stuff of legends and there is no way that it will ever die.


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Luke
schoolgirl addict



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Ottawa, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Bluephase
I think ameture DJ's will continue to buy vinyl, but professionals will start spinning more and more Cd's.


interesting comment... i sorta agree with you, amatures will alwasy be behind the game hence buying played out new releases.. while pro djs will spin mostly out of cds since they stay ahead of the game in playing new unreleased stuff.

in the end, no matter what medium you use, talent and dedication usually wins.

but vinyl will always have a place in my heart


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locutox
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

A lot of the mystique of going to a club is seeing a dj spinning on the decks. Most of the people I know don’t have record players but appreciate this fact. The future will be a fusion of digital and analogue (as we already see now, eg as said before about Ferry using both CD and vinyl.) I don’t see turntablists like Dj Krush and Dj Shadow disappearing soon whose style depends on vinyl Infact I say the popularity of records/scratching is rising.

These industry professionals have been predicting the death of vinyl since the invention of the audio cassette. For pop music it's been pretty much dead, but for everything else it's still there (especially with indy artists.) To me digital music lacks a soul, when I turn on my parents old jukebox full of old records I get a buzz that the flashiest new mp3 playing dvd player lacks (the sweet smell of ozone from the vacuum tubes heating up.)


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Carl
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: May 2001
Location: No Good Club Town, England

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0

i think the problem is all in the mentality. why in hell there is such strong hate against cdj's? the only reason that i can think of that makes sense is that many of these cdj's are newbies who download all their music and don't support the artists.


I think it spans from your stereotypical cheesy/disco DJ setup. Look back at the type of DJ's that would use CD mixers a few years back


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MrchinaSL
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Zagreb,Croatia

i heard that pioneer released DVDJ DVD player which is going to replace standard CDJ cd players... now they are going to produce a mixer which can mix audio and video as well... that sounds interesting

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Nadi
Not quite an addict



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Californa,

Will vinyl die? Probably not. But at the same time, I can't understand the romanticism you guys have to vinyl. At the club you should be doing other stuff rather then watch how many cds a dj plays.

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