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Originally posted by Nell IN THE UK: when tracks are played in bars clubs, the club holds a licence to play music. this licence is paid for annualy, and the money that is paid is then divided amongst the record labels. all the big label get most of the money (like WARNER, EMI etc in the UK) and then tiny little dance labels get from zilch to fuck all money.

I never knew this. I have a few questions though:
What if a club plays alot of music from the smaller labels?This system doent seem to reward them fairly?

Is this annual fee adjusted for which labels you use or is it fixed?

How much does this annual fee cost a club? Is the fee variable upon the size of the club?



Thanks

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Originally posted by icexclusive so cubase was involved??

yep, I think he said that about 30 times

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Originally posted by Nell the main money is in the royalties, take my word for it.

i still don't get this one, i'd think the exact opposite, underground tracks as they get barely any exposure they'd make pretty much zero royalties. but then again where do royalties come from? plays on clubs and radios? haven't you said yourself that pretty much all the money goes to the big labels and the smaller gets nothing? and then again i'm pretty sure radios and specially clubs don't write down lists of what is played and what isn't so the RIAA-like agencies can know which amount to give to each artist.

very confused

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Originally posted by paranoik0 i still don't get this one, i'd think the exact opposite, underground tracks as they get barely any exposure they'd make pretty much zero royalties. but then again where do royalties come from? plays on clubs and radios? haven't you said yourself that pretty much all the money goes to the big labels and the smaller gets nothing? and then again i'm pretty sure radios and specially clubs don't write down lists of what is played and what isn't so the RIAA-like agencies can know which amount to give to each artist. very confused

ok i'll explain again.

if YOUR track appears on compilations, is used in an advert or something in a similar form, YOU will as the producer be entitle to a share of profits made from sales etc. normally only a small % BUT if the Cd comp sells well or you get on several CD comps it adds up to a half decent amount! Also remember, when your track is signed by a label, it might not a be a one off fee, they might have something in the contract which says you will recieve a % of the sales (this is a royalty) so if the single continues to sell (even over a 5 year perdio) you will still keep getting money. The overall point being that you can obtain more money overall from these little extra's than from the small lump sum of cash you get for the initial signing of the track.

Radio plays are tracked (national radio stations at least, not shitty internet streams) and artists will recieve money if theyre track is played etc etc. BUT if you track is played in a club, you are entitle to nothing!!! why? because the club owner is paying for a specific music license that allows them to play the stuff. These licesnces also extended to radio stations. Radio 1 hold a (i forget name right now) license which enables them to play FULL RELEASES, WHITELABELS, BOOTLEGS on air. Not every station has this right.

And no, there are no specific licenses to particular labels. so EDM gets jackshit overall.

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Originally posted by davepiazza I never knew this. I have a few questions though: What if a club plays alot of music from the smaller labels?This system doent seem to reward them fairly? Is this annual fee adjusted for which labels you use or is it fixed? How much does this annual fee cost a club? Is the fee variable upon the size of the club? Thanks

1. yeah your right, system doesn't reward fairly. its a pretty shti system tbh, but there's nothign we can do! the poeple playign pop music though have a miniscule percent going into EDM though, so it works both ways.

2. It's fixed, BUT there are different sorts of licences for different clubs etc etc. loads of factors taken into consideration (see my radio 1 example in the post above)

there's loads more to go into, but it's really really detailed, so im just skimming on the surface and summing it up in a few sentences.

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Originally posted by DRM really mate unless its a vocal track all u need to remix it is the midi file, which u can work out yourself

So your saying someone can remix a track without obtaining any files from the artist? I mean, that makes more sense to me since there are alot of remixes in these forums of big name tracks by unknown producers.

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Originally posted by RJOllos So your saying someone can remix a track without obtaining any files from the artist? I mean, that makes more sense to me since there are alot of remixes in these forums of big name tracks by unknown producers.

anyone can. work out a melody(ies) for yourself, then work around it. simple. if you don't have a good ear for notes, ask someone who does

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thanks Nell!!

you really know your sh!t !

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Originally posted by davepiazza thanks Nell!! you really know your sh!t !

Remember, though, that it's pretty much illegal to actually do that... but nobody really cares unless you're trying to make profit with your remix.

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