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Originally posted by DJ_FRAZ Oh and Adam, glad ur getting the picture now , he does expect me to walk off now cos hes got lauren on his side.

I had the picture in my sites all along .. was just looking at it from multiple perspectives .. or if u wish ste being hit by a spanner from multiple angles .. haha ..

Its ... erm .. late

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Originally posted by DJ_FRAZ [17:36:11] Nic || Angel: u claim ownership? [17:36:35] Nic || Angel: soon as the files were willingly sent from your computer to lauren you lost exclusivity

utter bollocks.

tell him that warner music distribute their music all over the world, yet still retain ownership of the copyright. Exclusivity means nothing, ownership of rights is everything.

I see 2 options:

1. go see your solicitor and see what he has to say, but i have my doubts over whether or not the legal costs will be less than the money she/the site have recieved. This is only really viable if the site refuse to take down the pictures.

2. make her buy the rights to the pictures. if she is serious about modelling she will be glad to have pictures of her own.

If they refuse to take the pictures down, and the solicitor tells you not to bother, contact their ISP and/or hosting company and fucking screw them

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I think you should let it slide man..

dont think theres much else you can do tbh

ok, from the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 ...


you're looking at 4a, 9a, 16a, 16d(ish), 17.2, 23c

Ownership

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4.—(1) In this Part "artistic work" means—
(a) a graphic work, photograph, sculpture or collage, irrespective of artistic quality,
(b) a work of architecture being a building or a model for a building, or
(c) a work of artistic craftsmanship.
(2) In this Part—
"building" includes any fixed structure, and a part of a building or fixed structure;
"graphic work" includes—
(a) any painting, drawing, diagram, map, chart or plan, and
(b) any engraving, etching, lithograph, woodcut or similar work;
"photograph" means a recording of light or other radiation on any medium on which an image is produced or from which an image may by any means be produced, and which is not part of a film;
"sculpture" includes a cast or model made for purposes of sculpture.

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9.—(1) In this Part "author", in relation to a work, means the person who creates it.

(2) That person shall be taken to be—
(a) in the case of a sound recording or film, the person by whom the arrangements necessary for the making of the recording or film are undertaken;
(b) in the case of a broadcast, the person making the broadcast (see section 6(3)) or, in the case of a broadcast which relays another broadcast by reception and immediate re-transmission, the person making that other broadcast;
(c) in the case of a cable programme, the person providing the cable programme service in which the programme is included;
(d) in the case of the typographical arrangement of a published edition, the publisher.


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Use

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16.—(1) The owner of the copyright in a work has, in accordance with the following provisions of this Chapter, the exclusive right to do the following acts in the United Kingdom—
(a) to copy the work (see section 17);
(b) to issue copies of the work to the public (see section 18);
(c) to perform, show or play the work in public (see section 19);
(d) to broadcast the work or include it in a cable programme service (see section 20);
(e) to make an adaptation of the work or do any of the above in relation to an adaptation (see section 21);

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17.—(1) The copying of the work is an act restricted by the copyright in every description of copyright work; and references in this Part to copying and copies shall be construed as follows.

(2) Copying in relation to a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work means reproducing the work in any material form.
This includes storing the work in any medium by electronic means.

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23. The copyright in a work is infringed by a person who, without the licence of the copyright owner—
(a) possesses in the course of a business,
(b) sells or lets for hire, or offers or exposes for sale or hire,
(c) in the course of a business exhibits in public or distributes, or
(d) distributes otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the owner of the copyright,
an article which is, and which he knows or has reason to believe is, an infringing copy of the work.

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http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts198...48_en_1.htm#end

if he needs a shove in the right direction. we did copyright and patent protection as part on my uni course.

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www.magnasoma.com

i have an idea-

you give us her e-mail address and then we send her obscene stalker-type e-mails saying that the owner of the site is giving out her address.

she'll get dead paraniod and withdraw the photos.

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Originally posted by magnasoma 23. The copyright in a work is infringed by a person who, without the licence of the copyright owner— (a) possesses in the course of a business, (b) sells or lets for hire, or offers or exposes for sale or hire, (c) in the course of a business exhibits in public or distributes, or (d) distributes otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the owner of the copyright, an article which is, and which he knows or has reason to believe is, an infringing copy of the work.

Shafted!

Some damn good work there Mag.

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Originally posted by tu_face utter bollocks. tell him that warner music distribute their music all over the world, yet still retain ownership of the copyright. Exclusivity means nothing, ownership of rights is everything. I see 2 options: 1. go see your solicitor and see what he has to say, but i have my doubts over whether or not the legal costs will be less than the money she/the site have recieved. This is only really viable if the site refuse to take down the pictures. 2. make her buy the rights to the pictures. if she is serious about modelling she will be glad to have pictures of her own. If they refuse to take the pictures down, and the solicitor tells you not to bother, contact their ISP and/or hosting company and fucking screw them

thanks Jeff, im gonna quote that what you said at the top when i speak to him again. Quality advice. and Tim, that info is fucking great, very helpful!! that shall also be used to own him. I can't see him having an answer to any of this because its exactly how it is for me, all those acts u outlined.
Fucking great stuff everyone

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Originally posted by Fundamental Shafted! Some damn good work there Mag.

too fucking right

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hiya mate we spoke to our lawyer today and both parties have spoke to lauren.... As you sent the pictures to lauren as a gift.. then the law says say can do as she wants with them! Also.. He is getting touch with Southgate House London, to see when you paid for the coypright.. so as soon as that is done.. and when we get a letter off ur lawyer (with headed paper) action will be taken! many thanx

An email i just recieved from cosmicbabes.
He says i have to have paid for copyright?
Is he talking out of his arse there or what?
I never sent the pictures to lauren as a gift thats never even been mentioned...

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he's trying to call your bluff
when he says about "paying for your copyright" its the thing you do to make sure that when its out there, no one nicks it and passes it off as theres.

For example if you wrote a book, but didn't do the copyright, someone could copy it word for word, sell it and you wouldnt get any money.

However, in this case, photo's have been taken from a camera, and theres no way that Lauren could have done it herself and passed them off as her own, as its a bit difficult to photograph yourself in such ways as she was posing hehe.

And the gift thing is bollocks. You didn't give em to her as a gift, so stick by that

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yeah thats all true... but i don't want to goto the hassle of going through lawyers and stuff, i havent got the time or the money to be doing that!!! can this not be resolved any other way?
im pushing facts in their face, why can't they see im right and just take the photo's off? why does a lawyer need to be involved?

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