will read later but u do know that ISIS and OSIRIS and Horus are myths..they r not a true story..it is a story that doesnt have any effect on US EGYPTIANS and never did...just brings us alot of money from tourism..and a stroy we love to tell forigners about and show them some statues in abu simble temple..so u mean to tell me christianity is based on OSIRIS hahahaha if us egyptians knew that we would have used it to make more money off tourism

this story is more far fetched than the story of jesus wouldnt u say?

No shit, I thought they were real! Well, that's it then, I'll go and dismantle taht Osiris altar I've built in my backyard. Too bad, I've just bought a sheep to sacrifice it. Oh well, I guess I now at least have some meat for the barbecue...

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u will be surprised how many people believe those stories..

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Originally posted by rizen I hope the film answers my question about Jesus and the last supper... was is it kosher!?!

Affirmative!

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A handfull of us here are well aware of the contradictions that line both the books of the Christians and the Muslims, I'd like to know if any of you believe there are contradictions in the Torah with some sort of supporting arguements/sources.

Where is Occrider???????????????????

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Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef A handfull of us here are well aware of the contradictions that line both the books of the Christians and the Muslims, I'd like to know if any of you believe there are contradictions in the Torah with some sort of supporting arguements/sources. Where is Occrider???????????????????

Well, since the Torah is just the old testament of the christian bible, the same could be applied to it. Go to www.skepticsannotatedbible.com and there you'll find all the contradictions.

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quick question? is the Torah same as the old testiment? who exactly wrote it? was it moses? and if the old testement similar Torah isnt it subject to the same crticism as the bible? also do jews doubt the existance of jesus?

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Originally posted by tranceaholic u will be surprised how many people believe those stories..

You mean the Stargate movie and tvseries are all fiction

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Originally posted by tranceaholic can u tell me then who exactly started christianity..and how he/they spread it..u seem to know alot then plz inform me about the history of christianity from ur view..how do u think it all started and spread..

To be honest I don't know, quite frankly I don't think anyone knows. Unless someone can present evidence of the existence of a historical Jebus to me, then I don't think it really matters. Probably someone/people who wanted control over people. I hold the view that religion is mind control, but that's another topic altogether. Alternativley, it could have been someone who wanted money, a lot of religions have no qualms about taking money to 'further their doctrine', who knows if the people or person who started Christianity did so with cash in mind. On the other hand, it could have been a complete whacko, and when one critically examines the beliefs of the major mono (and poly) theistic religions, it's hard not to come to that conclusion.

As for how it spread, ignorance. Before modern science was around, how else would one explain all the amazing things that are found on the earth. It would have seemed entirely plausible to credit anything you couldn't explain or understand to a greater power or supreme deity. One could ask exactly the same question about Islam, Hinduism or Judaism.

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I could be wrong about this but if I remember corretly the first five books of the Old Testament which are the five books that Moses wrote are the Torah. The distinction between the Old Testament and the Torah starts after the first five books. The Old Testament includes more than five which are not part of the Torah.

And Illan, I believe most (not all) of the contradictions that people speak of in the Bible are in the first five books of the Old Testament which means the Torah, sorry to break it to ya. It's just like Tit0 said.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, since the Torah is just the old testament of the christian bible, the same could be applied to it. Go to www.skepticsannotatedbible.com and there you'll find all the contradictions.

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Atheist have put up a web site, called Skeptics Annotated bible They pose several contradictions and things that are against logic. Most of these so called contradictions are from a lack of reading on the Atheist part, however there are a few complex things mentioned. I answer all this contradictions with the Torah, to show the Torah is Perfect. This is only answering Contradictions of Torah vs Torah, and the difficult questions concerning Torah. I try my hardest not to address any of the contradiction of Torah vs NT, or Torah vs prophets, etc. You will be amazed at some of the very simple answers given in this book. This book makes the skeptics annotated bible look like it was written by children. You will not find these answers in your Christian commentaries. Just start to read to find out.

http://home.earthlink.net/~eeshgeeb...tradictions.htm

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