Not my fault you're too dumb to know how the umeployment rate is calculated

and occrider went on on some wild tangent on poverty and whether its a good system of measurement, Canada....how the hell do you there? red herrings all over the place

Now you can take your post count and make wild monkey love to it for all I care, but the point is, your credibility in my eyes is completely destroyed because even a high school kid that took inro to economics would never say

5.6% damn staggering number
I guaranty 2.3% aren't even looking for a job!

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Originally posted by Cal and occrider went on on some wild tangent on poverty and whether its a good system of measurement, Canada....how the hell do you there? red herrings all over the place

I was providing clarification that while it is true the unemployment report does not include those not seeking unemployment, it is not necessarily a statistically significant flaw that would skew unemployment results. As such, it is a measure that is an industry standard which is why I referenced Canada .... that was all.

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Originally posted by occrider I was providing clarification that while it is true the unemployment report does not include those not seeking unemployment, it is not necessarily a statistically significant flaw that would skew unemployment results. As such, it is a measure that is an industry standard which is why I referenced Canada .... that was all.

Isnt the 5.6% just the actual people who qualified for unemployment?
This is not including people who were fired and didnt qual for it as well as people who were unemployed for more than 6-12 months and their benefits ran out.

If you had to put an actual % on it wouldnt it be up in the 15-20% range or so? People who could actually work but just are too lazy or just cannot find work.

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Could this be the beginning of the end of Kerry's job platform?

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...ar_040402154503

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Originally posted by partyhopper http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...ar_040402154503

Nice try!

How about what he promised us?!?!?!

He promised 5.5 MILLION new jobs by the end of 2004 BUT he has ONLY created 600,000.

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Originally posted by hooknife Nice try! How about what he promised us?!?!?! He promised 5.5 MILLION new jobs by the end of 2004 BUT he has ONLY created 600,000.

It's a projection, not a promise
It's not Bush himself making this claim

Let's just hope job growth continues to move in the right direction

Where do you see opportunities for jobs being created (by Bush or anyone else) that aren't being, or haven't been, done ?

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...r2433770488.jpg

If Kerry gets elected, it will be interesting to see whether this actually happens

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Originally posted by partyhopper http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...r2433770488.jpg If Kerry gets elected, it will be interesting to see whether this actually happens

Yea- it's a little rediculous to promise that- unless he plans on hiring 10 mil on his own - I dont see it happening.

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Originally posted by partyhopper It's a projection, not a promise

You must be kidding! So what you are saying is when he says he will create 306,000 jobs a month but every month since the tax cuts have gone in to effect we have been in the negative region but that is acceptable because he used the word "projection?" My friend, George Bush said to the American public that we, the American public, should support the tax cut because it will create new jobs BUT the facts are his “projections” and reality are 2 VERY different things. lol....smoke and mirrors as always. The administration projected that a total of 2,754,000 jobs would be created after the tax cuts took effect. In fact, only 689,000 jobs were created over that period for a cumulative shortfall of 2,065,000 jobs.

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Originally posted by xKaoSx Yea- it's a little rediculous to promise that- unless he plans on hiring 10 mil on his own - I dont see it happening.

Especially since the main way he invisions creating jobs is by giving "job credits" to manufacturing employers in order to hire more and keep jobs in America. Unfortunatly Bill Clinton had it right. When people overseas will do the same job that an American will do for 1/20th the cost, unless you're willing to give employers a tax break to match (which won't happen), they're going overseas. Clinton tried the same thing before, didn't work...Bush tried it too, didn't work. Clinton started in the right direction by offering education to manufacturing laborers in order to train them for non-relocatable jobs, but I think that fell apart during the Bush administration. Manufacturing jobs are leaving the US, and there's nothing we can do about it. And please don't tell me that new energy jobs or government contracts alone (also his proposals) will yield 10 million jobs.

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Originally posted by smokeape Me neither! Damn you Bush! I want some of that... Lol! [[[smoke]]] Firewall - Sincere (Lange Vocal)

Off the subjest..... WOW!!!! She is HOT!!!!

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