If you people think they are being treated nicely, that's fine with me.

The way i see things, i think the US is seeding hatred for the americans all over the world. You may protect yourselves with a massive army, police and security all around, but you can't be 100% safe. There is too much hatred being generated against you, in many parts of the world.

Hatred against americans will not disappear just like that, it will come back against you in a very evil, despicable way. Sure, you've had a terrorist attack which has horrendous, Madrid too, and maybe another european city is next... but your time will come.

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Originally posted by borron If you people think they are being treated nicely, that's fine with me. The way i see things, i think the US is seeding hatred for the americans all over the world. You may protect yourselves with a massive army, police and security all around, but you can't be 100% safe. There is too much hatred being generated against you, in many parts of the world. Hatred against americans will not disappear just like that, it will come back against you in a very evil, despicable way. Sure, you've had a terrorist attack which has horrendous, Madrid too, and maybe another european city is next... but your time will come, you'll see. And this time, you deserve it.

Go to Hell

You are one sore loser.

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Originally posted by borron If you people think they are being treated nicely, that's fine with me. The way i see things, i think the US is seeding hatred for the americans all over the world. You may protect yourselves with a massive army, police and security all around, but you can't be 100% safe. There is too much hatred being generated against you, in many parts of the world. Hatred against americans will not disappear just like that, it will come back against you in a very evil, despicable way. Sure, you've had a terrorist attack which has horrendous, Madrid too, and maybe another european city is next... but your time will come, you'll see. And this time, you deserve it.

You're a pretty damn evil person, aren't you? Hopefully in a few days, when you're not talking in spite, you'll realize what you just said. Nice one.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Seeing the quote out of context (why?), I can almost relate to what you are saying. Courtesy of Merriam-Webster we have that "altrustic" means: 1 : unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others 2 : behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species Thus, whether any human ever acted altruistically may be debatable (for the record: I think not). mps242's post presented the presence of bases in Europe as an act that was carried out *solely* to benefit us whining Eurotards. I think not. I'm sorry if that leaves you speechless.

Very well, if we abide by the dictionary definition of altruism, than that act was not altruistic (as is virtually every single other human act). However, if we utilize the common sense basis for altruism, the basing of US troops in Europe was as altruistic as the Marshall plan, which is as altruistic as European's sending foreign aid abroad, which is as altruistic as Europe sending peacekeepers abroad, etc. Is caring about what goes on in other parts of the world and acting for the betterment of those parts of the world atruistic? I would like to think so.

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Originally posted by borron If you people think they are being treated nicely, that's fine with me. The way i see things, i think the US is seeding hatred for the americans all over the world. You may protect yourselves with a massive army, police and security all around, but you can't be 100% safe. There is too much hatred being generated against you, in many parts of the world. Hatred against americans will not disappear just like that, it will come back against you in a very evil, despicable way. Sure, you've had a terrorist attack which has horrendous, Madrid too, and maybe another european city is next... but your time will come, you'll see. And this time, you deserve it.

You clearly label American policy and everday American civilivans into one bunch, you are as disgusting as your commentary borron or should I say moron, judging by such a comment. You are exactly what you claim to speak against, welcoming the violence against Americans for simply being that but yet claim America is harming innocent people all over the world. I hope you see the monotonous, ignorant, paradox of your knee jerk statement. Thankfully not everyone welcomes violence against civilians whatever the beliefs may be of their respective governments.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan ...you are as disgusting as your commentary borron or should I say moron, judging by such a comment.

Chlorophill?? Sounds more like Bore-ophill to me!


Seriously Borron, that was just sour grapes. What flavor is your Kool-Aid?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono You're a pretty damn evil person, aren't you? Hopefully in a few days, when you're not talking in spite, you'll realize what you just said. Nice one.

I'm sorry, my last sentence was unfortunate, i'm going to edit it out. I still believe the rest of my assertion is true. You can call me whatever you want, but i really believe that.

One more thing, I don't put americans and their government in the same bunch, but that's what's happening in the "critical" areas, whether you like it or not.

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Originally posted by trancaholic I cannot fathom why you ordinary Americans have this need to defend the Iraq war. Admit that your government screwed up. Misled you. Abused its allies. Your not your government.

You are right. The Information the Bush administration used to lead us to war was incorrect. But we took advantage of the situation to take care of an evil dictator, enemy, and terrorists. Not a bad trade off in my opinion because it still has to deal with national security.

Now, it's not about what lead us to war, we are fighting a different war now, stop wasting time dewelling on that mistake, lets win this war and get home.

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Originally posted by borron The way i see things, i think the US is seeding hatred for the americans all over the world. You may protect yourselves with a massive army, police and security all around, but you can't be 100% safe. There is too much hatred being generated against you, in many parts of the world. Hatred against americans will not disappear just like that, it will come back against you in a very evil, despicable way. Sure, you've had a terrorist attack which has horrendous, Madrid too, and maybe another european city is next... but your time will come.

How exactly is the US seeding hatred? What exactly are these bad things Americans are doing that is worth terrorism?

Just watch any news channel. As the Palestinian Authority said, the US is benefiting Israel. The US has a crucial role in this peace process, so you can imagine how the palestinians feel. But the palestinians have more to think about, so let's put that issue aside (it's worn out already).

The intervention in Afghanistan - how many enemies do you think you have created there? As many as the ones killed for sure...

Iraq - US hatred is pretty explicit, more and more everyday.

Pakistan - The US are hated there (for several reasons, maybe the most powerful was the war in Afghanistan). Musharraf is suffering severe blows, including assassination attemps, because of his support to the US.

I guess most arabs and arab countries hate the US now, because of the reasons above. Countries such as Iran, Syria, Lebanon, even your close ally Saudi Arabia... the government may even cooperate with the US, but that's on the basis of fear and doesn't necessarily express the opinions of their citizens - and these citizens are the ones recruted for terrorist attacks.

Some may say that blaming the Palestinian situation as a cause of arab anger is simplistic - i also think this, but if this situation was solved in a civilized manner, with no expressed support of Israel by the US, at least the arabs wouldn't have anything to blame the US (excluding the Iraq situation of course, but that will take many many years).

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Originally posted by borron Just watch any news channel. As the Palestinian Authority said, the US is benefiting Israel. The US has a crucial role in this peace process, so you can imagine how the palestinians feel. But the palestinians have more to think about, so let's put that issue aside (it's worn out already). The intervention in Afghanistan - how many enemies do you think you have created there? As many as the ones killed for sure... Iraq - US hatred is pretty explicit, more and more everyday. Pakistan - The US are hated there (for several reasons, maybe the most powerful was the war in Afghanistan). Musharraf is suffering severe blows, including assassination attemps, because of his support to the US. I guess most arabs and arab countries hate the US now, because of the reasons above. Countries such as Iran, Syria, Lebanon, even your close ally Saudi Arabia... the government may even cooperate with the US, but that's on the basis of fear and doesn't necessarily express the opinions of their citizens...

do they hate the bear too