JUST TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR, YOU SHOULD ONLY EDIT YOUR REASONABLY OFF MIXES. IF EVERY MIX YOU MAKE IS REALLY OFF, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A DEMO FOR PROMOTION.

put it this way, the human ear has been trained from listening to all these dj mix cds. Most of them have flawless mixes. That is the problem. The promoters are going to associtate your demo to a mix CD. What you do live is different. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS SLIGTHLY OFF MIXES, NOT TRAIN WRECKS.

PEOPLE, LISTEN! IF YOUR DEMO IS TRAIN WRECKED AT EVERY MIX, THEN GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM. IF YOUR MIX IS HOT BUT YOU ARE REASONABLY OFF ON SOME MIXES BECAUSE YOUR ARE RIDING THE PITCH, THEN EDIT THOSE OFF MIXES. WHY, BECAUSE THAT STANDS OUT IN A CD. NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR YOUR HANDS ON THE RECORD TRYING TO SPEED OR SLOW IT DOWN. YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE CLUB AND IT WILL NOT MATTER BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN. WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING LIVE AND YOU ARE OFF SLIGHTLY WITH THAT SAME MIX, PEOPLE CAN'T TELL OR DON'T REALLY CARE BECAUSE ITS LOUD AND THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS. JUST AS LONG AS YOU RECOVER AND ARE NOT SLOPPY. ON A CD, IT SOUNDS REALLY BAD AND PROMOTERS DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT.

ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SLIGHTLY OFF MIXES, NOT TRAIN WRECKS. IF YOU TRAIN WRECK AT EVERY MIX, THEN YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM- period.

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Originally posted by dknylady ah just thought of one more thing... why would you spend thousands of dollars on turntables, needles, mixer, amp/speakes, headphones, carts, and VINYL if you are just gonna turn around and bang out a brainless mix on a computer mixing program??? oh and honestly i find computer enhanced "mixes" very boring. stuff like id&t or bitte ein beat. you know these mixes were messed with till they're perfect. i understand the reasons for that and that's fine and all, but i still think it's boring. i love hearing mixes that have been done live, with it's little inconsistencies.

I definately agree with this.

For example, I was listening to one of my old Slinky CDs a couple of weeks back, compilations which arguably sold me on trance. Don't get me wrong, I love them, both for the tunes on them and for the direction it pointed my taste in music in, but it does get a bit boring hearing perfect transition after perfect transition.

Listening to a recorded liveset is usually much more interesting. For example, I have one of Tall Paul recorded live at Giant in LA, and it's one of my favorite compilations for that exact reason.

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This heated debate rivals some in the political forum.


People do what they want, I think they have heard both sides, its your call.


If I could computer mix I prolly would. but til then, ill make my poopy mixes

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If I could computer mix I prolly would. but til then, ill make my poopy mixes

Mate, I can guarantee you that most people, certainly DJs, would much rather listen to your 'poopy' mix than a flawless, boring, lifeless, easy-to-make, brainless computer mix. I know I would.

I still don't understand how you could have 'fun' compiling a flawless mix on a PC. Because that's what it's all about, no? Having fun, and improving your skills to enable you to pass that fun onto others.

If you just want to listen to dance music - go to a club. If you want to mix, then at least mix properly.

You can't create a promo mix on the computer, maybe edit it, but thats bollocks if you make up a perfect mix without going near your decks.

Do it properly and stop looking for the easy solution.

In case a lot of you folks hadn't noticed, there are tons of really sh!te DJs out there anyways, most of which are too stupid to use a computer for mixing their demos. If they can get work so can any of you.

Network network network and forget about the seamless mix for a mo!

Nem

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