My calfs don't show it really when you look at them..but they are strong and I always had good balance on my feet....I train like a mofo...2 days a week playing soccer (footy).....usually suicides and running the field....and working on skillz....then usually running 3-4 miles 6-7 days a week as well.

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Originally posted by torontotrance My calfs don't show it really when you look at them..but they are strong and I always had good balance on my feet....I train like a mofo...2 days a week playing soccer (footy).....usually suicides and running the field....and working on skillz....then usually running 3-4 miles 6-7 days a week as well.

yeah that's cool if you can build them up like that cross training....it's just never worked for me personally...i can only speak about my experience in the matter...

If you're serious about working out and you eat the proper nutrition you can work calves as much as 6 days a week with weights.

You only gain as much with calves by solely performing non-weight exercises as you do by performing say, only push-ups and bodyweight dips to build up your chest. Aka not nearly enough.

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Last edited by Radagast on May-16-2004 at 04:49

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Originally posted by Radagast If you're serious about working out and you eat the proper nutrition you can work calves as much as 6 days a week with weights. You only gain as much with calves by solely performing non-weight exercises as you do by performing say, only push-ups and bodyweight dips to build up your chest. Aka not nearly enough.

Six days a week is overtraining if you're doing them right. I wouldn't do any body part more than two days a week, big muscle groups only once. If you do them right, and do intense training, there's no need to work any part more than twice a week. You need time to let them grow, and working them six days a week gives them no time to properly grow.

Hey,

I need some help with training. I recently joined a gym but I am just randomly using equipment. I want to know what i should do to achieve the following:

1) Get bigger shoulders (my chest is not wide so i want to develop my shoulders). If possible without getting no-neck-syndrome.
2) Develop my arm muscles. (Not like Schwarznegger or anything but nice definition)
3) Lower my body fat percentage. (My body fat seems to be mostly on my stomach and butt)
4) Define my pecs and 6pack

Don`t get me wrong i couldn`t really care about being overly healthy im healthy enough as it is i want to do it for purely aesthetic reasons =]

Anys, currently I go to the gym about 3 maybe four times a week. I ride a bike for 20 mins then muckaround on the weights for about half an hour after that sometimes i will go for a swim for 20 minutes.

cheers for the help! =]

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Originally posted by Omegasox Six days a week is overtraining if you're doing them right. I wouldn't do any body part more than two days a week, big muscle groups only once. If you do them right, and do intense training, there's no need to work any part more than twice a week. You need time to let them grow, and working them six days a week gives them no time to properly grow.

Actually a beginner should do about 3 times a week. 5 or 6 times a week is for advanced and competition programs. I assumed that Orbax was beyond a beginner phase.

"For Advanced and Competition Training, I recommend working calves 6 times a week. I have heard theories that this amount of frequency represents "overtraining," but when I look at the bodybuilders who have the best calves, I usually find they are the ones who train them more frequently."
-Arnold Schwarzenegger, The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding

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Originally posted by torontotrance fuck that, you really want to build the calf muscles and the hamstrings....and endurance. Usually 1 day a week, I do hill training, it is killer tho and great for marathon runners (well to be marathon runners). The guy I know with the most built calfs I've ever seen, swears by it.

it also can give you shin splints from hell

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Originally posted by Radagast Actually a beginner should do about 3 times a week. 5 or 6 times a week is for advanced and competition programs. I assumed that Orbax was beyond a beginner phase. "For Advanced and Competition Training, I recommend working calves 6 times a week. I have heard theories that this amount of frequency represents "overtraining," but when I look at the bodybuilders who have the best calves, I usually find they are the ones who train them more frequently." -Arnold Schwarzenegger, The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding

and also the ones who takes steroids all the time

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Originally posted by Radagast Actually a beginner should do about 3 times a week. 5 or 6 times a week is for advanced and competition programs. I assumed that Orbax was beyond a beginner phase. "For Advanced and Competition Training, I recommend working calves 6 times a week. I have heard theories that this amount of frequency represents "overtraining," but when I look at the bodybuilders who have the best calves, I usually find they are the ones who train them more frequently." -Arnold Schwarzenegger, The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding

Schwarzenegger was a genetic freak who worked out about 4 hours every day. What he considers the right way to train is definitely not for everyone.

All I know is after a good calves workout, I can barely walk out of the gym. I couldn't imagine working them the next day.

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Originally posted by Omegasox All I know is after a good calves workout, I can barely walk out of the gym. I couldn't imagine working them the next day.

i agree with that. i can barely walk after i hit calves or legs in general for that matter

but you do have to work them as often as possible. once you get used to the torture of good calf training you can train them more often...

anyone have any arm recomendations?

when i was younger...i used to avoid doing arms because they seemed to respond quickly to training and i wanted to be porportionate.

now, i can't seem to get any size on them. what would you guys suggest for arms? heavy weight? lots of reps? i know arms is something that seem pretty easy, but it's been bugging me for a while...