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Originally posted by Miss Julia LOL What the hell are you talking about hun? Here in LA, we've had the "non-smoking" law for YEARS... and no one has lost their jobs, and there are more people than ever at the clubs. I just think it's alot better if there is a designated smoking area or patio, so that non-smokers don't have to die because of YOUR second-hand smoke!

Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth. The same goes for SF and NY.

-Your Mother

My friend in Buffalo who runs a restuarant/bar says business has been off at his restaurant by 25% since this law came in a year ago and its never recovered. He said its the same all over town.

Also, ive heard from many sources that many people simply go to New Jersey now from NYC when they want to go out.

Who would have thought that Jersey was the land of freedom?

Seriously: Smoking has improved my sex life.

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Originally posted by Your Mother Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth. The same goes for SF and NY. -Your Mother

...and San Jose

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Originally posted by Jayx1 My friend in Buffalo who runs a restuarant/bar says business has been off at his restaurant by 25% since this law came in a year ago and its never recovered. He said its the same all over town. Also, ive heard from many sources that many people simply go to New Jersey now from NYC when they want to go out. Who would have thought that Jersey was the land of freedom?

Enough with your crusade already, I already posted an entire essay that debunked every single whiny complaint you had about smoke-free laws hurting business. Statistics across the board, not just in California, have shown that business has generally gotten better in the hospitality industry after passing those laws, not worse.

Just shut up. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about and neither does the average bar owner. They love to complain, but whenever it comes time to actually produce some documentation to prove that they've lost business, suddenly they don't want to participate in any study. Wow what a concept - but no, clubs never cook the books, no sir. They run squeaky-clean businesses, how dare the government interfere with their daily operation!

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Originally posted by DigiNut Enough with your crusade already, I already posted an entire essay that debunked every single whiny complaint you had about smoke-free laws hurting business. Statistics across the board, not just in California, have shown that business has generally gotten better in the hospitality industry after passing those laws, not worse. Just shut up. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about and neither does the average bar owner. They love to complain, but whenever it comes time to actually produce some documentation to prove that they've lost business, suddenly they don't want to participate in any study. Wow what a concept - but no, clubs never cook the books, no sir. They run squeaky-clean businesses, how dare the government interfere with their daily operation!

how dare the government interfere! COMMUNISTS!

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I find it ironic that we are all complaining about saving our health by having smoking ban, meanwhile the majority of us have taken or do take substances that are way more hazardous to our health.

STFU. What ever happened to A HAPPY FUCKING WORLD.


BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT GO, DONT LISTEN, DONT DO IT.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Enough with your crusade already, I already posted an entire essay that debunked every single whiny complaint you had about smoke-free laws hurting business. Statistics across the board, not just in California, have shown that business has generally gotten better in the hospitality industry after passing those laws, not worse. Just shut up. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about and neither does the average bar owner. They love to complain, but whenever it comes time to actually produce some documentation to prove that they've lost business, suddenly they don't want to participate in any study. Wow what a concept - but no, clubs never cook the books, no sir. They run squeaky-clean businesses, how dare the government interfere with their daily operation!

OH, OK, so i guess statistics created by a government are so unbiased that we should believe them.

Dont be niave. Your govt likes to fuck with you.

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Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew I find it ironic that we are all complaining about saving our health by having smoking ban, meanwhile the majority of us have taken or do take substances that are way more hazardous to our health. STFU. What ever happened to A HAPPY FUCKING WORLD. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT GO, DONT LISTEN, DONT DO IT.

it's about choice!

It's YOUR decision to do drugs. It's YOUR decision to smoke, but smoking happens to affect other people. So what gives you the fucking right to push the second hand smoke on me and put my health at risk?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Also, ive heard from many sources that many people simply go to New Jersey now from NYC when they want to go out. Who would have thought that Jersey was the land of freedom?

This statement is so full of shit you have no fucking clue.

Nobody that lives in Manhattan would ever go to NJ to party and especially not because you can smoke over there... NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS.

-Your Mother

Maybe not people in OUR scene. But newsflash... most people do not belong to OUR scene. So yes, most people WOULD go over to Jersey because its smoking allowed


As for Diginut: yes bar owners know nothing.... they have absolutely no idea who their patrons are and what kind of business they do. They also have no idea about how much money comes into their business and when.

But the government knows all i guess..

I have some advice for you...Move to Cuba!