It's inconceivable that anyone on this forum could be a Conservative. If you believe in Harpers ideas, you don't belong here.

He's right you know.

Think about it.

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Originally posted by UWO Tranceaddict It's inconceivable that anyone on this forum could be a Conservative. If you believe in Harpers ideas, you don't belong here.

If you dont vote Liberal you arent Canadian... how democratic..

That is an unfounded assumption based on a binary view of our political system. We aren't the US, you know.

(Even though most Conservatives would have us become America Jr. even more than we are now.)

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Conservatives would not insult the US a la that Parrish idiot. The Conservatives also recognize who our biggest trading partner is. Without the US we are screwed whether we like it or not. Does that mean we are going to become the US or be controlled by it? NO. But it does mean that he will be more diplomatic than the Liberals have been. Especially by not calling them "morons" or "idiots" like the Liberals have done. No wonder farmers are still suffering out west due to closed borders to beef.

yay i turn 18 just in time to vote

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Originally posted by Flec yay i turn 18 just in time to vote

Choose wisely

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Originally posted by Jayx1 What it all boils down to is this. The Liberals have an 11 year record of broken promises, wasteful spending and recycled platforms. If they didnt follow through before what says they will now? I dont buy it. I also dont buy into scare mongering as a way of wagging the dog when it comes to the real issues. The conservatives have the best platform but most importantly they dont have the same record as this merry band of liberals are concerned. Im willing to give them a chance and if need be in 4 years we can replace them especially if the Liberals have cleaned house and renewed themselves. But today, here and now, the conservatives are shining in a much brighter light than the thieves we call the Liberals.

no offense but sometimes you sound like a tory spokes person

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If you dont vote Liberal you arent Canadian... how democratic..

no there are several other options. Also I really dont like harpers stance on greater integration with the US. I would rather see greater inetgratoin with europe

swilly

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Originally posted by swilly no offense but sometimes you sound like a tory spokes person swilly

I dont take offence at all. It just says that you feel that im a professional spplesperson who knows what he is talking about.

For the record, i have alwasy said the conservatives are not my ideal vision of a party but are definately the best out of all the options presented in this election. I have my own ideas as to what is best and what isnt.

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Originally posted by swilly no there are several other options. Also I really dont like harpers stance on greater integration with the US. I would rather see greater inetgratoin with europe swilly

This will never happen do to geography alone. The costs and time delays in shipping are much higher than sending a load by truck across the border. It's a simple as that.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Conservatives would not insult the US a la that Parrish idiot. The Conservatives also recognize who our biggest trading partner is. Without the US we are screwed whether we like it or not. Does that mean we are going to become the US or be controlled by it? NO. But it does mean that he will be more diplomatic than the Liberals have been. Especially by not calling them "morons" or "idiots" like the Liberals have done. No wonder farmers are still suffering out west due to closed borders to beef.

This is complete bullshit. Our trade is a two way street. The U.S. would be screwed without us as well. I believe that we really need to foster our ties with Europe, not become further dependent on the U.S.

While I don't approve of the terms "morons" and "idiots" from our political representatives...um...those are exactly the people that fill the Bush administration. When a group of diplomats, ambassadors, etc come out and renounce the administration, people who are both republican and democrats, and people who worked closely with Bush Sr., then you know you're adminstration sucks ass.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If you dont vote Liberal you arent Canadian... how democratic..

yet another lame catch phrase that only Conservative supporters are saying...

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Originally posted by UWO Tranceaddict It's inconceivable that anyone on this forum could be a Conservative. If you believe in Harpers ideas, you don't belong here.

I agree. The EDM scene is *generally* made up of very open minded, liberal (small L) people and Harper is a huge step backward with his conservative (small c), Christian flavoured agenda. I'm honestly SHOCKED that there are so many Conservative supporters on this board. I expected to see the *vast* majority as supporting the Liberals, NDP or Green.

What's really disturbing is that so many Conservative supporters are only supporters because they don't like the Liberals. What a misguided choice for them...

Harper knows this. He knows his moral ideals don't appeal to young, open-minded people, or social activists, or immigrants, etc. Solution? Cut taxes for anyone earning below 35k to nab the low to middle income and student vote. I have nothing but contempt for him.