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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
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Originally posted by tecnolover
Opus, you want to know what has got me riled up??? It honestly scares me to think that ppl like you just might actually vote for this Kerry. I have never in my life seen as bad a democratic candidate for pres. The dems have stooped to new lows this election. It honestly scares me to even imagine this character as pres. of our nation. now to answer a few questions and makes some comments...


What exactly scares you about Kerry? 527 ads?

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Why isn't Kerry wearing any??? Hmmm.... maybe because he doesn't have anything to fear?? after all who would the terrorist love to see in power in the US more than Kerry?


Hmm, let's see...Bush maybe? After all, he did turn Iraq into a terrorist Mecca.

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I'd like to know this?
How is Kerry going to fund all the things he says he's going to do domestically for this nation? Be honest here with me. We aren't idiots (well i'm not anyway lol). He says he'll roll back the tax cut Bush implemented. Ok, fine. So again I say where is going to get the money?? You and I both know that is bull.


Would you care to prove why you think so? After all, how is Bush going to fund his government projects? By tax cuts for the rich?

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Kerry is your typical politician who promises lots of stuff and can't and won't deliver. If he did deliver half of those things he would end up getting impeached because he would have to break all his other promises he has made. He has screwed up! Face it. He has painted himself into that corner that all politicians try to avoid.


You keep speaking in general terms but you never specify what exactly those things are. Which promises do you deem unrealizable?

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Bush has been very careful what he says and promises.


Haha, that's a good one. Like finding Bin Laden. Or WMDs in Iraq. Or making Iraq a safer place. Yup, a man of his word!

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Kerry, and all the wealthy upper class in USA know that they don't pay much at all in taxes. That is the absurdity of rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. Things are not fair. They are not equal. When you have money you can afford ways to keep it too. They pay a lower percentage than everyone else because they are able to take advantage of so many tax loopholes. Until our tax code is changed his 'tax-the-people-who-make-over 200k' plan is bull@#$% he's feeding you. So his rollback isn't going to amount to a hill of beans and just like Bush said to make Kerry plans work he's going to end up taxing the middle class or he won't get the money he needs. Oops, but then he promised he wouldn't do that!? hmmm... what is he going to do??? nothing. absolutely nothing.


Again, this is just pure speculation on your part.

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Concerning Iraq, LOL Kerry admits Saddam was a threat yet would have waited for UN approval?? How long do you wait? Till the enemy hides everything? Or till they attack? hmm..


Well, if Bush didn't wait until they hid everything, then how come he didn't find anything either? And how exactly would Iraq attack the US? With a 200km range scud missile?

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This Kerry is anti war to the enth degree and his foreign policy would lead us into disaster at this stage of the game.


You really fail to see that most of the world hates the US because of Bush's foreign policy? He attacked Iraq, a minor threat, while at the same time there's North Korea that has missiles capable of reaching the US and is just about to build a nuke. How can Kerry get any worse than that?

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He says he's going to build our military up. How is he gonna pay for it again? Thats kinda important don't you think? Army guys don't like working and risking their lives if they aren't going to get paid. Again, Kerry has trapped himself.


What exactly makes you think that Kerry plan is so short on funds? If Bush can fund the occupation of Iraq, then why don't you think that Kerry can fund the modernization of the military?

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What really ticks me off is how he likes to flaunt the talk of increasing US Special forces like somehow this makes him sound like a tactical commando minded guy to the voters! Hilarious. This guy is the furthest thing from being tactically minded.


Then how come he was a leader of a swiftboat and got a medal for bravery? He's certainly more tactically minded than Bush who never saw the war.

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Not to mention that the majority of US armed forces servicemen and women dislike Kerry because of his unhonorable year in vietnam http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php


If I'm not mistaken, only 1 person who served with Kerry refused to support him. Swift boat veterans is a bogus organization that intentionally misinforms naive people like you.

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and how he betrayed the US military later. Yes, there were war attrocities. It was a terrible war and they were on both sides. More on theirs than on our IMO. I think with Kerry as pres. our military's morale is going to fall sharply. Btw- it's ironic how Kerry idolizes JFK, when it was JFK who started sending our boys to vietnam, the war that Kerry so opposed later! Doesn't make sense.


Vietnam turned into a really bloody and brutal war that the US could not have won. World situation changes and with it change the minds of people. I hardly believe JFK would continue the war if he lived long enough to see its consequences.

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Kerry, says he's not going to pull our troops out.(btw-the anti-war must hate him for that!


Not really. I was anti Iraq war, and I'm not for pulling troops out. Pulling troops out would be a worst possible move that would turn Iraq into an Al Quaeda base.

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or maybe they aren't really anti-war afterall, but just anti-Bush in disguise.hmmmm...)


Saying that someone is "anti-war" is a great overgeneralization. A person can support one war and be against the other. Would you be against it if Bush suddenly decided to attack Canada? You probably would. Does that mean you're anti-war?

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Fine, that is understandable. We have to finish the job, but he wants to get all these other nations to help us out. Don't you think Bush wanted that too?? duh.


Well, he did want that, but he kinda failed in fulfilling his wishes. I want to be filthy rich, but whether I'm capable of actually getting rich is a totally different story.

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He got as much support as he could get. Then he acted. You don't sit around waiting for the whole world to support you when you are the most powerful nation on earth and you feel threatened.


Threatened? By what? Short range scud missiles?

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You take the initiative. Diplomacy had failed with Saddam way back.


How did diplomacy fail when Saddam agreed to every single condition demanded by the US???

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Bush didn't need any authority from UN to take action. The UN bull was just global politics and PR.


Well, PR and global politics are not really as irrelevant as you make them seem to be. Ask yourself why your hummers get blown up in Iraq every day.

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As for getting a stronger coalition? It didn't happen for Bush and not going to happen for Kerry either, not even France is going to step in to help their boy. enough said for now.


We'll see. I'm not so sure about it. And what's with you guys and France? There are more than 100 countries who disagreed with the war in Iraq. 3 of them from the security council.[/QUOTE]


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MisterOpus1
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Oh c'mon, he didn't just cheat a 3rd time, did he?



The bulge returns
As this screen shot from the Wednesday night debate indicates, the Bush mystery will not disappear

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By Farhad Manjoo

Oct. 13, 2004 | Salon looked hard for evidence of the president's mystery bulge this evening, but for much of the debate, on the ABC feed we screened, Bush's back remained out of view. At the end, though, as the president crossed the stage to thank his opponent, we caught this glimpse of something strange pushing out of the commander in chief's tailored coat. Is it part of an in-ear prompting device? Is it a back brace? Body armor? Confirmation that Bush is an alien? The mystery deepens ...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/13/bulgefoto/


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LiquidX
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Oh c'mon, he didn't just cheat a 3rd time, did he?



The bulge returns
As this screen shot from the Wednesday night debate indicates, the Bush mystery will not disappear

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Farhad Manjoo

Oct. 13, 2004 | Salon looked hard for evidence of the president's mystery bulge this evening, but for much of the debate, on the ABC feed we screened, Bush's back remained out of view. At the end, though, as the president crossed the stage to thank his opponent, we caught this glimpse of something strange pushing out of the commander in chief's tailored coat. Is it part of an in-ear prompting device? Is it a back brace? Body armor? Confirmation that Bush is an alien? The mystery deepens ...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/13/bulgefoto/


*yank* *yank*


Mmmm We are going to end up watching this on "Unsolved Misteries "


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Radagast
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1



That could be the edges of his shoulderblades with a wrinkle in the suit below them.


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Aww, c'mon now. He was wired with explosives in case he self-destructed in front of Kerry. End of Thread.


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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Oh c'mon, he didn't just cheat a 3rd time, did he?



The bulge returns
As this screen shot from the Wednesday night debate indicates, the Bush mystery will not disappear

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Farhad Manjoo

Oct. 13, 2004 | Salon looked hard for evidence of the president's mystery bulge this evening, but for much of the debate, on the ABC feed we screened, Bush's back remained out of view. At the end, though, as the president crossed the stage to thank his opponent, we caught this glimpse of something strange pushing out of the commander in chief's tailored coat. Is it part of an in-ear prompting device? Is it a back brace? Body armor? Confirmation that Bush is an alien? The mystery deepens ...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/13/bulgefoto/


*yank* *yank*


thats weird...

soo main argument that it is not a radio reciever is that he is still so bad to debate... buuuuut, its not like his advicers have done a good job over the past 4 years either, i mean they must in some way have recomended all the shit he have done. and besides, if he were too good, everyone would know it was a radio reciever!

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imokruok
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA / Milwaukee, WI

Just to add some finality here:

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http://www.hillnews.com/under_dome/110404.aspx
UNDER THE DOME
By Albert Eisele and Jeff Dufour
November 4, 2004

The last word on Bush’s bulge

Call off the conspiracy freaks. Now it can be told: That mysterious bulge on President Bush’s back during the first presidential debate was not an electronic device feeding him answers, but a strap holding his bulletproof vest in place.

Speculation about the bulge on the Internet only increased since Georges de Paris, the Washington tailor who makes Bush’s suits, told The Hill last month that it was nothing more than a pucker on the back of Bush’s coat caused when he crossed his arms.

But sources in the Secret Service told The Hill that Bush was wearing a bulletproof vest, as he does most of the time when appearing in public. The president’s handlers did not want to admit as much during the campaign, for fear of disclosing information related to his personal security while he was on the campaign trail.

The suspicion that Bush was, indeed, wearing something under his coat was given further credence by Dr. Robert M. Nelson, a senior research scientist for NASA and Caltech’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and an international authority on image analysis, who conducted tests while working at home on his own computers.

“I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate,” Nelson told Salon.com. “This is not about a bad suit. And there’s no way the bulge can be described as a wrinkled shirt.”


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