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XtremeNINja27
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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
Ummm, I'm wicked confused by this. I did pre-game prior to seeing Tiesto, but I still recall paying roughly $40 for admission and Vision was at capacity, but he shouldn't waste his time playing good tracks or try because EDM isn't as popular as other types of music in the U.S? I recall DJ Mag's bio that accompanied his #1 ranking noting that he was especially well received by crowds in the U.S. There's so much variety in music today and there are people who are as excited about seeing Brooks & Dunn or Eminem as I am about seeing Paul Van Dyk.
Tiesto & others bring in large crowds who are greatly into EDM and to say it's not worth their time to put on a good performance because Nelly is more popular in this country is beyond me. Yeah I can see putting extra thought and care into preparing for TiC or the opening ceremonies at the olympics because they are rather special events, but that doesn't mean sold out events in the U.S. aren't worth any effort. Overall, most people have had very little exposure to EDM and if a big DJ/Producer plays before a capacity crowd here and puts together a solid set, those people not only will return the next time, but are likely tell their friends about it too. First time I saw PvD I went by myself, had a wonderful time and played some of his tracks for some friends afterward, who wound up going the next time, despite never hearing EDM before I mentioned how impressed I was. As Ludacris would say, while apparently he's riding on DUBs, it's about "Word of Mouf."
Agreed It is about word of mouth , But if you think US is not a hip-hop dominent culture (at least with younger music lovers) then we will never see common ground on this issue.My point was that Dance musics base audience ,AKA Strongest supporters are all in europe. Chicago is one of the 3 biggest cities in the US and I do not know of ONE dedicated dance(of any kind ...techno , house ,ETC.) radio station ,excluding Sirius and XM.
Also about your spending $40.00 to go to Vision,If Tiesto sells out a nightclub for one night with a capacity of 1,500 every six months that simply does not compare to a country singer or rap artist who tours the US for a couple years and selling out stadiums of 25,000+ every couple nights.
I really am not seeing your arguements as far as the US not being a Hip-Hop dominated culture, Its just undeniable.
My ultimate point about my previous post was that lots of people give Tiesto and others grief for not performing as well in the US as in Europe, I agree that they do not perform as well but because performing well in Europe is more important AT THIS TIME( because it is not as popular in the US ) . If he spins good in the US 1,500 will spread the word , If he saves his good stuff for Europe 25,000 will spread the word. Once again , Just my sheltered Opinion

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ctprincess
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I'm just as important as any fan in Europe and when I pay my $40 to see a dj perform I expect him to give me 110%. i don't care if trance isn't as popular as hip hop in the US (what an idiotic excuse to give the dj) - I paid my money and I expect him to be a professional and give 110% at EVERY SINGLE GIG. Sure, I don't like giving 110% at work every single day, but its called having some PRIDE in my work and giving my best when I show up for work. Tiesto not caring about his US gigs demonstrates to me that he's lazy, self-centered and has no pride in his work. And to think that people actually pay to see the guy trainwreck....

I think I've read somewhere that more people in the US vote in the dj mag 100 poll than Europeans, so really, Tiesto should give a fuck about his performances in the US.

And I'm not sure why we are still having this discussion - Armin is so much cuter than Tiesto

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Re: ?

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Originally posted by XtremeNINja27
By the way , Ignorance is bliss? should be a statement , NOT a question


I was asking my friend Lucid if blissful ignorance was the reason for your ignorant comments, mendicant.

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XtremeNINja27
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Originally posted by ctprincess
I'm just as important as any fan in Europe and when I pay my $40 to see a dj perform I expect him to give me 110%. i don't care if trance isn't as popular as hip hop in the US (what an idiotic excuse to give the dj) - I paid my money and I expect him to be a professional and give 110% at EVERY SINGLE GIG. Sure, I don't like giving 110% at work every single day, but its called having some PRIDE in my work and giving my best when I show up for work. Tiesto not caring about his US gigs demonstrates to me that he's lazy, self-centered and has no pride in his work. And to think that people actually pay to see the guy trainwreck....

I think I've read somewhere that more people in the US vote in the dj mag 100 poll than Europeans, so really, Tiesto should give a fuck about his performances in the US.

Agreed but Djing is almost an artform in its own right, Would you expect madonna to come up with a new song every couple weeks and never put out a greatist hits album? No sometimes she plays her old favorites , Im not giving Tiesto or any other DJ a pass , You think i want to see a second rate show , Of course not. Maybe i AM being subconsciously partial to Tiesto.
DJing though is different than a normal everyday job as far as giving 110%. Now i dont know what you do so im not trying to slam you but flipping burgers or something similar is not the same as creating a new dance set. I just think Djing is mentally draining work and maybe thats why major Dj's hit their peak quickly and then fall quickly because they become too repetative in their sets.DJing is more of a creative artform than country , hip-hop or any major music form. A normal popular group may come out with a new cd every couple years with 12 songs on it then tour with it for a year or maybe two (While playing those same twelve songs every concert,if they even play an instrument . Such as Brittany Spears who doesnt even sing). If a DJ played the same twelve songs he would be the worst DJ ever in most people's eyes ,as well as mine.I dont know am i making any sense here or do i just sound like i am ranting?

Maybe I just dont get it yet, Maybe i have not been listening long enough to get the GREAT story that a DJ spins over a four hour period .

Or maybe you guys just forgot to just have fun?

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MrSquirrel
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In the immortal words of a DJ who cares more about the crowd than Tiesto:

"Your and idiot"




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XtremeNINja27
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Jester Re: Re: ?

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel
I was asking my friend Lucid if blissful ignorance was the reason for your ignorant comments, mendicant.

MrS
Well in that case you answered a question (Lucid said "Do you realize how ignorant you sound?" - which is a question ) with another question , "Blissful ignorance?"

Not only is Blissful ignorance a sentence fragment but answering a question with another question is poor grammer.I was asking for you to back up your ignorant statement , Thats all.



I like your Mendicant slam but how am i a begger ? Please back it up too.Dont try to impress me with your big words you got out of the thesaurus


P.S. You guys are fun

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XtremeNINja27
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quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
In the immortal words of a DJ who cares more about the crowd than Tiesto:

"Your and idiot"




MrS
Do you mean "AN" idiot?

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ctprincess
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quote:
Originally posted by XtremeNINja27
Agreed but Djing is almost an artform in its own right, Would you expect madonna to come up with a new song every couple weeks and never put out a greatist hits album? No sometimes she plays her old favorites , Im not giving Tiesto or any other DJ a pass , You think i want to see a second rate show , Of course not. Maybe i AM being subconsciously partial to Tiesto.
DJing though is different than a normal everyday job as far as giving 110%. Now i dont know what you do so im not trying to slam you but flipping burgers or something similar is not the same as creating a new dance set. I just think Djing is mentally draining work and maybe thats why major Dj's hit their peak quickly and then fall quickly because they become too repetative in their sets.DJing is more of a creative artform than country , hip-hop or any major music form. A normal popular group may come out with a new cd every couple years with 12 songs on it then tour with it for a year or maybe two (While playing those same twelve songs every concert,if they even play an instrument . Such as Brittany Spears who doesnt even sing). If a DJ played the same twelve songs he would be the worst DJ ever in most people's eyes ,as well as mine.I dont know am i making any sense here or do i just sound like i am ranting?

Maybe I just dont get it yet, Maybe i have not been listening long enough to get the GREAT story that a DJ spins over a four hour period .

Or maybe you guys just forgot to just have fun?

of course dj's play old and new tracks - that wasn't even part of your original post. both tiesto and armin play the same old tired tracks and throw in new ones etc.

I'm a senior tax manager with a big 4 accounting firm and my clients are the Fortune 500 - so I think my job is just as mentally draining as dj'ing (and interpreting the tax code is not easy and I can be very creative ). I just don't understand why you people give dj's a free pass etc. - making up excuses for poor performances. Yeah - any and every dj have bad days, but it seems to me that Tiesto has more of them than any other dj out there right now. I have friends in Holland who go to Tiesto's gigs just to count how many times he trainwrecks.

It's people like you who give Tiesto free passes as to why he keeps getting voted #1 when in reality, he doesn't deserve it because he doesn't really care about his performances.

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quote:
Originally posted by XtremeNINja27
Do you mean "AN" idiot?

you don't get it - which isn't surprising

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you don't get it - which isn't surprising

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quote:
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I'm a senior tax manager with a big 4 accounting firm and my clients are the Fortune 500 - so I think my job is just as mentally draining as dj'ing (and interpreting the tax code is not easy and I can be very creative ).

I was just wondering how you get CREATIVE on tax laws? Is it by finding loopholes around them?

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ctprincess
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I was just wondering how you get CREATIVE on tax laws? Is it by finding loopholes around them?


yup - and my clients pay very well for my time and effort - at least i care about giving my clients what they pay for

i can understand liking tiesto more than armin - they each have very different styles etc. but, it just seems to me that you're making excuses for tiesto's poor performances in chicago - and as an educated club goer you should demand more from him.

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