and Twilo... read back to my post on why & how the US influences the world, kinda makes ur post a bit useless... the end of it anyway...

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Originally posted by Eugene Rather than spread misleading information that you don't know FUCK about, read this CNN article: http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiap...ence/index.html "Pakistan says: Evidence exists to indict Bin Laden" And, everybody, please know your facts before you post something as stupid as that!

I think in the comments made about CNN, it has been proven that they are not always correct with their information. That's why I actually feel sorry for all you American citizen, because you get treated the same way a the inhabitants of Middle-Eastern countries....CNN is a newschannel using propaganda to keep you from thinking yourself and gathering your own information. I've come to the point that I feel that you guys and girls can't help it that you believe so strongly in your America....it has been shoved down your throats ever since you were born...in fact, I am questioning all media...what if all the newschannels show you the wrong information? Where would you have to go to see what's really true? /me sighs

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus I think in the comments made about CNN, it has been proven that they are not always correct with their information. That's why I actually feel sorry for all you American citizen, because you get treated the same way a the inhabitants of Middle-Eastern countries....CNN is a newschannel using propaganda to keep you from thinking yourself and gathering your own information. I've come to the point that I feel that you guys and girls can't help it that you believe so strongly in your America....it has been shoved down your throats ever since you were born...in fact, I am questioning all media...what if all the newschannels show you the wrong information? Where would you have to go to see what's really true? /me sighs

And to me it seems, Miss Proximus, that you can't help it...

You are arguing here simply for argument's sake. Regardless what I say and what evidence I give you, you'll still be arguing just to say "no" to something. If I tell you that CNN, an internationally acclaimed world leader in news, posts some information, you'll automatically say "no" to that as well.

Fine, I can give you a Russian ITAR-TASS post of that as well. Only I doubt you'll be able to read Russian. Do you want me to give you a Dutch site too? I can do that... Or better yet, the independent source, Associated Press or Reuters.

You just want to object and say "no" -- and how is that not brainwashing, either? Only this time you're washing your brain.

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus I think in the comments made about CNN, it has been proven that they are not always correct with their information. That's why I actually feel sorry for all you American citizen, because you get treated the same way a the inhabitants of Middle-Eastern countries....CNN is a newschannel using propaganda to keep you from thinking yourself and gathering your own information. I've come to the point that I feel that you guys and girls can't help it that you believe so strongly in your America....it has been shoved down your throats ever since you were born...in fact, I am questioning all media...what if all the newschannels show you the wrong information? Where would you have to go to see what's really true? /me sighs

And to me it seems, Miss Proximus, that you can't help it...

You are arguing here simply for argument's sake. Regardless what I say and what evidence I give you, you'll still be arguing just to say "no" to something. If I tell you that CNN, an internationally acclaimed world leader in news, posts some information, you'll automatically say "no" to that as well.

Fine, I can give you a Russian ITAR-TASS post of that as well. Only I doubt you'll be able to read Russian. Do you want me to give you a Dutch site too? I can do that... Or better yet, the independent source, Associated Press or Reuters.

You just want to object and say "no" -- and how is that not brainwashing, either? Only this time you're washing your own brain.

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where did Russia get in the story?? bit confused here....

media might say the same everywhere, but that still doesnt mean the media is telling the truth, or the whole truth, the media just tells us what they want us to know, nothing more... the Pakistani could have been threatened for all we know, there is so much going on in the world none of us know of, iz scary...

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So basically what Gekhous and Proximus are arguing is that everything the media says is bullshit propaganda, nothing they say is the truth and only Americans are affected by it. Then where pray tell, do people in Holland get their news from, cause it appears that you two are INFINITELY more informed than anyone who dares argue against you, yet the news is bullshit. Can you honestly say that rumor, word of mouth and general opinion that sway in your favor is ANY better than propaganda? late/

Its damn right that if some other country has the power america has it would be quite the same, because all this hunt for money is unfortunately some human instinct or something like that. Even here at switzerland we have some sorts of these groups like UBS, who refused to give the money at the right time and now swissair collapsed and hundreds of people are without work.
It somwhat doesnt make sense to argue with most americans, because as I can understand, they have a good life and no reason to not thrust their government cos they never had problems caused by them (at least not obvious ones). Just one thing: If you find some time, just read some books who are critical about your government. some things may not be right, others are.

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Originally posted by cweb It somwhat doesnt make sense to argue with most americans, because as I can understand, they have a good life and no reason to not thrust their government cos they never had problems caused by them (at least not obvious ones). Just one thing: If you find some time, just read some books who are critical about your government. some things may not be right, others are.

cweb, certainly you're not talking about me, are you?
I'm not even native-born American, I came here a few years ago..

I agree, by the way, that America's foreign policy is troublesome and needs to be changed. It's when people start saying stupid things they know nothing about, that I get annoyed.

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WOW
so many people against the USA, mostly from Europe
I dont see how some people agree what the USA is doing is wrong.

SO are you FOR terrorism?

Afganistan was warned now they will face the consequences of HARBOURING know terrorists.

Nations dont attack for fun, they know enough to act accordingly.

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Originally posted by Gekhous After the terrible, horrible tragedy of Sept. 11, there is nothing wrong with saying that, but, however, there is smth wrong with KEEP on saying it, the words kinda lose value, and eversince we get beaten down with those words lately, yes, i get a bit sick of hearing them... like somebody else said in this thread, dont just bless America, bless the world, cuz we damn well need it!!! and how the hell can u SOMETIMES dislike smth?? plz plz plz explain to me how, do u just dislike things when it turns out bad for u, and when it fits u at the moment, u like it?? id like to know... and since i do not believe in god i wont bless the victims or their relatives, but i most certainly feel for em, but i got over it, it happened a month ago, and i dont live close enough to be confronted with it every day, like u might be...

For someone who doesn't believe in God kinda weird how you're here eh? I think your a fool more than anyone here, saying the words 'God Bless America' loos value? WTF? Its like saying I love you to someone that you TRULY love it cant lose value. I pitty the way you think or your outlook on life.....and next time you feel like you should not bring up something you dont give a piss about that happened a month ago, dont say that your moving on if you KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT! BTW thanks alot Eugene.........

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