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loconet
de la puta madre!



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Oh I totally agree with the tabbed browing...that option rawks!
That's why I use the MAXTHON browser.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the next ver. of IE implement this...


yah, tabbed browsing is a good feature. I hear it is up there on the priority list for features on the next version of IE. so that should be good..


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Old Post Nov-10-2004 16:48  Peru
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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

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Processors are way faster than any applications (minus gaming because gaming always pushes the boundries of the hardware spectrum) that are out there.


That kind of reasoning is the reason we need to upgrade our computers every couple of years. If only software developers were smarter, and tried to write software for current computers, rather than optimize for future versions - well, then we wouldn't be forced to upgrade(spend money) every few years.

Old Post Nov-10-2004 17:23  Canada
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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
That kind of reasoning is the reason we need to upgrade our computers every couple of years. If only software developers were smarter, and tried to write software for current computers, rather than optimize for future versions - well, then we wouldn't be forced to upgrade(spend money) every few years.


True story...

Solution: Don't buy games! (yea....right....)


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Old Post Nov-10-2004 17:31  Canada
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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
No one seems to be answering my question...

I understand there might be some technical satisfaction and bragging rights for having achieved low boot times and Mem usage but that thinking is so 10 years ago...

In this day and age, things are cheap, cheap, cheap.
Processors are way faster than any applications (minus gaming because gaming always pushes the boundries of the hardware spectrum) that are out there.
RAM is so much cheaper than it used to be and to complaining the cost of that? Just over $100 for 512Meg DDR is nothing to complain about...


sorry but not everybody can afford that extra $100? and then were does it stop? i have 512mb of ddr, and its great, iw ould like more, and ram is cheap, but i have no money, same with a lot of other people. school tuition is a little more important than 1gig of ram, compared to 512.

and plus what happens when you are running a game, and a few windows inthe background (which contain cheats, or guides) and you keep them all open? id rather use the browser which frees up more space.

efficency is key, dont become a whore to computer advertising..."its so cheap, youd be stupid not to"

tis a slippery slope you are treading

Old Post Nov-10-2004 20:01  India
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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
That kind of reasoning is the reason we need to upgrade our computers every couple of years. If only software developers were smarter, and tried to write software for current computers, rather than optimize for future versions - well, then we wouldn't be forced to upgrade(spend money) every few years.


yeah this kind of reasoning really burns me. people forget that faster computers also means more power, which means a greater strain on our electrical systems, which means more polution....and it just goes on and on.

these so called improvments come at a cost, always at a cost.

and if people under estimate this point...take a look at power supplies for PCs, P4s now "require" 400W!!! thast an insane amount of power, leave one of those on all day, everday and you will notice a rise in your hydro bill...if you pay it

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
That kind of reasoning is the reason we need to upgrade our computers every couple of years. If only software developers were smarter, and tried to write software for current computers, rather than optimize for future versions - well, then we wouldn't be forced to upgrade(spend money) every few years.


actually, a 4 years old computer is still doing the job of word processing, surfing and IM'ing.

And that same computer should still do the job in the next 2 years.

4 to 6 years isn't bad at all IMO.

The only ones who NEED the cpu power are the gfx designers, gamers and geeks (you gotta compile that kernel faster)!


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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
yeah this kind of reasoning really burns me. people forget that faster computers also means more power, which means a greater strain on our electrical systems, which means more polution....and it just goes on and on.

these so called improvments come at a cost, always at a cost.

and if people under estimate this point...take a look at power supplies for PCs, P4s now "require" 400W!!! thast an insane amount of power, leave one of those on all day, everday and you will notice a rise in your hydro bill...if you pay it


so with your reasoning, everyone by now should have an echo or smaller as a car...

matter of fact buddy, its not happening. And won't happen anytime soon.


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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
sorry but not everybody can afford that extra $100? and then were does it stop? i have 512mb of ddr, and its great, iw ould like more, and ram is cheap, but i have no money, same with a lot of other people. school tuition is a little more important than 1gig of ram, compared to 512.

and plus what happens when you are running a game, and a few windows inthe background (which contain cheats, or guides) and you keep them all open? id rather use the browser which frees up more space.

efficency is key, dont become a whore to computer advertising..."its so cheap, youd be stupid not to"

tis a slippery slope you are treading


I agree with Malek.
I also have a 3-4 yr old computer at home that's running IE, Outlook and everything just fine (with WindowsXP) without even having to tweak.
Tweaking a new computer (< 2 yrs old) is really redundant unless (like Malek says) you're an overclocker or a gamer or something.

Having been a student I also understand that students go out to bars and/or drink, go out to eat and if they can afford that then my friend, it's not a cost problem, it's a budgeting priority problem...


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St_Andrew
I <3 NYC



Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by malek
The only ones who NEED the cpu power are the gfx designers, gamers and geeks (you gotta compile that kernel faster)!


well, a real geek would see that as a challange, "hmm, what cflags to use for compiling that kernel as fast as possible at this old computer" etc..

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

in my 4 years of running W2K/XP, I haven't had a memory problem except when opening a 100 hi res picture for editing in Photoshop (thats pretty dumb i know).

Opening 10 windows of IE never caused any trouble, never had any memory leakage (theorically impossible under the Windows 5.x kernel).

Memory usage isn't an issue unless you have 256 megs and less


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Durafei
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

quote:
Originally posted by malek
in my 4 years of running W2K/XP, I haven't had a memory problem except when opening a 100 hi res picture for editing in Photoshop (thats pretty dumb i know).

Opening 10 windows of IE never caused any trouble, never had any memory leakage (theorically impossible under the Windows 5.x kernel).

Memory usage isn't an issue unless you have 256 megs and less


Well, I just bought(1.5 months ago) a laptop with 256megs of ram, celeron.. and it's FUCKIN SLOW ! I hate it (the only reason I bought it cause it was cheap). But ever since I started using Firefox on it, it became noticeably faster.

quote:
Opening 10 windows of IE never caused any trouble, never had any memory leakage (theorically impossible under the Windows 5.x kernel).


Malek, are you sure you understand what Memory Leakage means? It means that software doesn't deallocate memory, which it allocated earlier. Pretty much all software suffers from that problems(some more than others).

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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt



seems like Firefox 1.0 isn't compatible with the lastest version of BBCode .. gonna hav to wait for a new release on the extension ..


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