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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 I think Vince Carter in going to have a very successful second half with the Nets,I have always thought he wasn't much of a leader and didn't have the character to be the man even back when he was at Carolina.

good comment there .. look who were considered "superstars" in the 90s with UNC that havent grown into the leader role in the NBA .. carter .. stackhouse .. mcinnis .. rasheed wallace .. brendan haywood .. and plenty more .. it looks like UNC and dean smith didn't produce leaders in the 90s .. hmmm...

Out of all The current Tarheel players in the nba...i hold alot of respect still for Antawn Jamison..he quietly will get you 20 points and 10 boards every night.carter Benefited from playing along side him just like stackhouse thrived playing with Rasheed Wallace.

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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 Out of all The current Tarheel players in the nba...i hold alot of respect still for Antawn Jamison..he quietly will get you 20 points and 10 boards every night.carter Benefited from playing along side him just like stackhouse thrived playing with Rasheed Wallace.

true .. i almost forgot about him .. he is probably the most productive out of all the 90s UNC stars ..

as for Duke (another powerhouse college) suprisingly the only "best" superstar they had that played in the 90s is Elton Brand .. that's about it .. everyone else has been down the toilet .. well i can't say much about Dunleavy, Battier, Duhon, Deng, and Jay Williams .. they still have some years left to prove ..

but nba superstars are spread out in all the colleges . there isn't a true "factory" where they automatically create nba superstars.. good colleges that have created superstars are arizona, ucla, georgetown, and kansas ..

I'm a kentucky fan,they are really good at creating scorers and guys who can run.I feel bad for Elton Brand i like him as a player but he is doomed to rot and waste his talent in Clipper land.As for Duke players i have 3 names
1. Christian Laettner
2. Cherokee Parks
3. Bobby "drunk drivin" Hurley

Damn Sonics Beat the Heat......Guess Luke riddnour can play

Another Dukie: Grant Hill

My excessively long NBA post:

Being a grad of Univ of Oregon, got to respect the game of Luke Ridnour. Because he's a little white boy, they always say that someday he could be the next Steve Nash. D is a little weak though. Classic gym rat. Luke Jackson in Cleveland... where are you?

Heat will come out of the West. Hard to see otherwise. Detroit doesn't have the passion this year and their team is predicated on energetic D. Wade is a young buck. He'll be fine playing that many minutes. He's built stronger than Me, Myself, and Iverson. Iverson always broke down because he's freaking small. Shaq is coasting anyway until the playoffs. With Artest and Jackson, Indiana and Jermaine O'Neal could challenge but obviously that's not happening.

Nice to see another Blazer fan too but honestly the Blazers suck man. I'm not satisfied with Zach as the franchise guy. Black hole and terrible D. I'd rather see them keep Shareef who is a better all around player. Pair him with Miles and SF and Telfair at PG and you have something exciting. Trade Zach for guards. It won't happen though (can't trade his anyhow with his excessive contract). Just my musings....

About Brent Barry, if you have followed the recent articles about him, they have chalked him up to be the biggest bust of the free agent year. His numbers are WAY down from last year. His 3 pt % is below 30% off of 45%+ last year. I don't agree there.

Anyway.... Spurs vs. Heat is how I foresee things. Spurs too tough on D and have the experience and the X Factor in Duncan. Garnett doesn't have the surrounding pieces as much this year. Sprewell is a tool! Cassell is growing long in the teeth.

At least the Suns/Sonics are exciting as hell. Their games are reminiscent of the fast break, run and gun 80's. Exciting stuff. The thing is, when they're shooting good it doesn't matter about their defense because it's lights out. They drop 120 like it's nothing.

Yes, the NBA bores me many times. Pales in comparison to college basketball in terms of motion offenses (vs. one on one bull S) and raucous crowds. But the Suns/Sonics/Heat are making things better for me this year. That's how basketball should be played.

Plus, Dwayne "Flash" Wade and "King" Lebron James are putting the NBA in good hands. James is more of the next Michael Jordan that Kobe will ever be. He's led a horrendous Cavs team out of absolute gutter into contending status. Amazing! Undeniably the most exciting talent there is. He makes his teammates better. Something that piece of crap Kobe fails to do.

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lakers vs san antonio last night, lakers get a jolly good thrashing. game was over after the first half. you couldnt see them coming back from the defecit, they just arent a good enoguh team. outside kobe they have few options. odom was poor, and kobe was quiet last night, bar a few flashes of individual brilliance.

san antonio looked as if they were coasting, duncan was pretty quiet and took regular time on the bench. they just didnt need him out there, the other guys were handling la well enough. spurs are the best team ive sen so far, the bsaketball theyre playing is fluid and well organised, definite contenders, though they are beatable.

Gee guess kobe doesn't need Shaq.Kobe is just like McGrady...a great scorer who doesn't make any one else on the team better.Have fun getting your 40 a night and going for the scoring title

Knicks losed again but against the best team in the East and my pick for Champs the Heat.

Would like to see somehow Issah build the team around Crawford and Marbury over the next 3 years but thats what everyone dreams of in New York.

just saw this on yahoo:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?sl...ov=ap&type=lgns

so why does everyone hate kobe? the rape case? was he not cleared? isnt it a bit unfair to hold a grudge on him for this? for the shaq thing? shaq comes across to me as an arrogant asshole. thinks hes the man too much. have you heard him rap?

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Originally posted by svens_bath just saw this on yahoo: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?sl...ov=ap&type=lgns so why does everyone hate kobe? the rape case? was he not cleared? isnt it a bit unfair to hold a grudge on him for this? for the shaq thing? shaq comes across to me as an arrogant asshole. thinks hes the man too much. have you heard him rap?

1. Uhhh... he cheated on his wife nevertheless. 2. He's comes off as an arrogant prick. 3. Yes, he did all he could to run off Shaq and Phil Jackson. If he would have not wanted to be so selfish, he could have had 4 or so more championships with them. Instead he wanted to prove he was the next Michael Jordan. Guess what? It ain't happening. 4. He does not make his teammates better a la Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Lebron James. 5. Being a Blazers fan, he is the symbol of my most hated professional sports team.

Shaq is the worst rapper ever! Agreed.

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