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Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor I hope you did not pay a resonable amount of cash for that...Pretty much 2 cd players, can you take a picture of the outputs it has? maybe it has RCA outs for a mixer...

well...
it has a single L+R output for Audio, but also an input for L+R audio. It has video video output as well :s...


it cost me $200AUD=$100USD=66Pounds

L and R do not refer to channels. They only refer to u know... L and R speakers.. like on Hi-Fis etc.

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Originally posted by Abhay well... it has a single L+R output for Audio, but also an input for L+R audio. It has video video output as well :s... it cost me $200AUD=$100USD=66Pounds L and R do not refer to channels. They only refer to u know... L and R speakers.. like on Hi-Fis etc.

By anychance did you buy this recently? if so still got the receipt? I would try to get the money back, are you looking for a dual-cd setup only? Ebay has tons of these from name brands, for a little more if not the same price, as what you paid for this.

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Originally posted by Abhay ummm.. if gain control=pitch control... then it has those... actually... what i do when I'm mixing between tracks is that as i start to move the crossfader towards halfway, then i drop the bass down to an absolute 0 (there is no separate bass control for each cannel). Then, once I'm past halfway on the crossfader, I pop it back up to full as i get towards the end of the fader. It works if i do that within like 2 seconds. Any more time and the ears have enough time to adjust to the change in the loudness of the bass and pick up the fucked up beat line up.

no, a gain control is essentially the volume of the track (note, it should be seperate from the volume faders which are on it). this is so you can wack the faders right up without worry and not have one track loud and the other too quiet

i agree with whoever said try and get your money back, that looks more like a kids toy than anything you can seriously dj with

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Originally posted by tu_face no, a gain control is essentially the volume of the track (note, it should be seperate from the volume faders which are on it). this is so you can wack the faders right up without worry and not have one track loud and the other too quiet i agree with whoever said try and get your money back, that looks more like a kids toy than anything you can seriously dj with

It does have separate volume control for each channel... I guess that's gain control, because it does do what you say... but i have to do it myself... it's not automatic right???

I'm not trying to defend this piece of shit... i'm just trying to make sure it's worth the money, and make sure that an accurate picture of it IS generated.

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Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor By anychance did you buy this recently? if so still got the receipt? I would try to get the money back, are you looking for a dual-cd setup only? Ebay has tons of these from name brands, for a little more if not the same price, as what you paid for this.

I find that hard to believe... this thing is supposed to be a shit replica of 2 CD DJ systems i think... I seriously think a proper one of these has NO chance of costing me less than $500.

Hey man... i'm not as stupid as many think... I kept the fucking reciept... I bought it about 1-2 weeks ago. They'd better fuckign return it. The good is not fit for the purpose which it was intended, hence, they are legally bound to return it to me. That's a part of the law in Australia.

ALl i really want is something i can play in front of a crowd, and keep the beat from sounding like shit, and also hopefully make my own mixes with simple A-B loop/replay functions...

It HAS to be CD-R, i can BUY all the albums later once i get some cash from DJing in front of crowds...

the rest of the goodies i don't realyl need.

i just hate the difficulty in matching up beats with this thing... I only ever get it right about 20% of the time....

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Originally posted by Abhay It does have separate volume control for each channel... I guess that's gain control, because it does do what you say... but i have to do it myself... it's not automatic right???

no, a gain control is a knob that affects the volume before the channel fader. the channel fader is the last control, its basically a percentage of the gain, so you set the gain to match the other track and you are free to wack the channel fader right up. this is so you can cut and stuff with ease and sound knowledge it will be the same level.

what that thing has, is 2 channel faders. if the tracks are burnt to the cd at different levels, you can't just wack those right up.

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Originally posted by Abhay I find that hard to believe... this thing is supposed to be a shit replica of 2 CD DJ systems i think... I seriously think a proper one of these has NO chance of costing me less than $500. Hey man... i'm not as stupid as many think... I kept the fucking reciept... I bought it about 1-2 weeks ago. They'd better fuckign return it. The good is not fit for the purpose which it was intended, hence, they are legally bound to return it to me. That's a part of the law in Australia. ALl i really want is something i can play in front of a crowd, and keep the beat from sounding like shit, and also hopefully make my own mixes with simple A-B loop/replay functions... It HAS to be CD-R, i can BUY all the albums later once i get some cash from DJing in front of crowds... the rest of the goodies i don't realyl need. i just hate the difficulty in matching up beats with this thing... I only ever get it right about 20% of the time....

although your equipment is shit, i think you are blaming it for not matching up beats when you sound like you just dont understand the concept of mixing yet. by no means am i trying to flame you here. i just dont want to see you run out to buy some equipment that is going to match up beats for you.

what do you know about mixing?

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Technics 1210 TT on Ebay with Ortofon Cart for $163 with 10 hours left <---this is a no brainer

Different Seller has 3 total available...This one is at $145 with 10 hours left...no needles

Pioneer DJM-300 NEW mixer - $209 Buy it Now Price

Sennheiser DJ Headphones HD280 PRO for $70 BIN NEW

All for under 1k with about $100 left for vinyl.

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Those are good deals Cosmokid, I'll definitely look into em within the next 10 hours. Is that Pioneer DJM-300 mixer considered to be good though? Or should I save my money for a better one?

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All for under 1k with about $100 left for vinyl.

$1000 for vinyl doesn't seem like it'd go very far, but I can still see your point.

the way the auctions are now would leave you more then $100 for vinyls. i assumed the prices would be higher by the end so i only assumed 100.

when i started spinning my friends all gave me a few records each to start with and i had bought 3. i had about 10 playable records total. add 1-2 every week. started slow, but thats how everyone starts. rarely do people have a bunch of money t orun out and spend on vinyl. and if they do, no way they are finding a lot of records in stock they like.

when i bought my set-up i started with...

2 x Numark TT200s for $300 total
1 x Numark Axis 8 CD Player for $320
1 x Numark Matrix 3 for $210

under $850 shipped for everything. i sold everything a year later for $750.

add a cd player to your set-up so you dont have to buy vinyl all the time and only spin the same 10 songs for 2 months.

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I recommend getting some cheaper gear, your going to want to try DJ'ing and if you dont really like it you havent spent money on high quality products, to find out, at the end of the day, you dont like it. here is some suggestions on good but not top of the line gear, to really get the feel of mixing.

Turntables: 2x Stanton STR8-80's are around $430 w/ tax, (you can also pick up a Dual-cdj for $200)
Needles: 2 shure m25c's are around $60 w/ tax
Mixer: Stanton SMX-201 about $70
Headphones: Anything thats pretty Decent for 20-30 dollars at Best Buy
but you still need a mixer and headphones... so you will need about 600 or so

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i'd start with a PC-based program if I was you. that's what I did
PC-based mixing kept me busy almost a year and taught me ALOT.
... but now I love my tech 1200s! :P

turntables, records, and all the fixings get *expensive*, unless you buy cheap stuff which wont resell, wont last long, and wont be fun to play on. you might as well take your cash burn it!

If you have a decent PC, try Native Instruments Traktor, version 2.5 or later. It's truely a great app.

get a halfway decent DJ mixer and a second soundcard. hook up both the soundcards to the mixer, fire up traktor, and you've got two virtual decks and a hardware mixer. assign keyboard shortcuts and put some labels on the keys till ya get used to it, and you've got yourself an effective inexpensive little setup to learn some serious bidness about mixing music.

you can train your ears to properly hear beats, learn phrasematching, get an idea of what beatmatching will be like, define your style, learn to properly handle levels and do transisitions, etc...

that way, when you get your decks, you'll just have to get used to the physics of vinyl records!