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occrider
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How can one possibly justify Bush misleading congress and the public in an effort to acheive his agenda whilst subscribing to conservative principles of smaller taxes, and a smaller social welfare state where Washington elites aren't dictating how you live your life?

What are the American people too stupid to be told the truth? The people need to be misled? Congress needs to be misled? Hmmm sounds like Washington elites who think they know what's good for me and dictate how I live my life.


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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
If this were the case, many MANY more countries are in need of our spread of democracy over Iraq, some I listed in my previous post. But the two areas that would certainly supercede Iraq if such a rationale existed in the neocon philosophy would be the Congo and Sudan.

And where's our asses in those areas?

no oil = no need for democracy


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i would say condie as bush calls her fits in her new job ...she's a specialist in the eastern and oriental europe speaks russian german english and others languages but the diplomatic dialog isn't her thing i've read like when she said about the iraq war "russia we can forgive ....germany we can forget it and france we gotta punsish her"
im french and i guess she doesn't like france so our relations between france /US may be bad or not so good as they could have been at some times under powell but i dunno france isn't the only important thing i guess but personally i prefered powell even if he was often manipulated by bush and his administration

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
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no oil = no need for democracy

that includes Germany, Japan, Italy, Israel, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Serbia, and Afghanistan right?

read a book and stay away from DemocraticUnderground.com

Old Post Nov-19-2004 23:33  United States
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Zild
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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
How can one possibly justify Bush misleading congress and the public in an effort to acheive his agenda whilst subscribing to conservative principles of smaller taxes, and a smaller social welfare state where Washington elites aren't dictating how you live your life?

What are the American people too stupid to be told the truth? The people need to be misled? Congress needs to be misled? Hmmm sounds like Washington elites who think they know what's good for me and dictate how I live my life.


Thats what i'm saying. I'm conservative on many issues, and liberal on some and when I hear the stupid crap Bush says. I just want to scream WTF how can conservatives support this guy he's not a conservative at all or a liberal he's a centrist neo-nazi that only cares about his business interest. I mean cmon the US have never before had a president with an MBA degree and now we not only have a president with an MBA but a vice-president pulling his strings that also has an MBA. Everyone knows you can't trust people in business, they're only worried about making that money and thats it.

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Shakka
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Hmmmm....centrist neo-nazi???

MBAs are evil???


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Zild
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I used to be an undergrad business major with aspirations to go to graduate business school at the University of Texas but I swithced to chemistry because of the utter bullshit that being a business major really entails. In the end, I just couldn't rip people off for a living and feel good about myself, so now i'm going to make alot less money for a much tougher job. k thx plz drive thru.

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Spacey Orange
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well, i think her confirmation hearing begins tommorrow. i think that she'll get confirmed even though I disagree with her nomination. i have inside information that she violated at least one federal law, but even if i get that out, i doubt that it will derail her nomination. oh well. secretary rice:


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i have inside information that she violated at least one federal law, but even if i get that out:


Hey PDD an't better than any other way to get something out there


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Trancer-X
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So why did we do it?


9/11 came to fruition, which further set their plans into motion. This has all been in the works for quite some time now.

It was a "catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor"



http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews.../5025024.htm?1c

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news...075_comment.php

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Spacey Orange
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Hey PDD an't better than any other way to get something out there


might as well. i contacted a journalist on national paper and never heard from that journalist.

anyway, you heard it here first: she knowlingly hired many illegal immigrants (or had reason to know that she hired illigal immigrants) to work for her when she was provost at stanford. i have firsthand knowledge.

i only mention here because i know this has no real chance of getting in the mainstream media.

some might say 'big deal', but the hiring of illegal immigrants has been publicly mentioned as a reason for the sinking of prior judicial nominations (can't recall any right now)and cabinet positions (Linda Chavez: Lobor Secretary, Kerik: Homeland Security etc.)


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St_Andrew
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might as well. i contacted a journalist on national paper and never heard from that journalist.

anyway, you heard it here first: she knowlingly hired many illegal immigrants (or had reason to know that she hired illigal immigrants) to work for her when she was provost at stanford. i have firsthand knowledge.

i only mention here because i know this has no real chance of getting in the mainstream media.

some might say 'big deal', but the hiring of illegal immigrants has been publicly mentioned as a reason for the sinking of prior judicial nominations (can't recall any right now)and cabinet positions (Linda Chavez: Lobor Secretary, Kerik: Homeland Security etc.)


PDD = where you hear everything first

honestly, sounds interesting, you should definitely contact someone, perhaps a democrat congressman/senate or whatever approvces?

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