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Originally posted by 3xx3r7

Thanks for the marvellous contribution :/

I sincerely don't understand why this has become a thread about christian tolerance but... oh well

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Originally posted by Lira Thanks for the marvellous contribution :/ I sincerely don't understand why this has become a thread about christian tolerance but... oh well

well, thouhgt you might have learnt by now, threads in here turns off topic more often than they do not

oh well, sorry anyway for ruining your thread, but i just had to defend my principles and it was far from only my fault

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Originally posted by Lira There are six basic beliefs shared by all Muslims: Belief in Allah, the one and only one worthy of all worship. Belief in the Angels. Belief in the Books (sent by God). Belief in all the Prophets and Messengers (sent by God). Belief in the Day of Judgment (Qiyamah) and in the Resurrection. Belief in Fate (Qadar)* I once heard they do accept Jesus as a Messenger, and I don't think there would be much trouble for most Christians in accepting Mohammed as a prophet as well. The rest could be logically adapted to Christian faith (and vice-versa), as long as people accepted some subtle changes.mad: I reckon this sounds doable. If someone actually managed to do it (and be successful, at least among moderate followers of both religions), what would the consequences be, in your opinion?

They can't merge for the same reason giraffes and hippos don't mate: they're not in anyway alike. GTF outta here if you think diverse religions can merge into a single one. That's just f*cking insane.


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Originally posted by ogvh5150 To elaborate further: Exodus 3:13-14 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. I AM is Strongs' number 01961 (hayah) John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

good one

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mutations are good, if it wasnt for mutations we would still be small cells and nothing of what is on earth would have happend. and yes there are several examples of mutations that are "bad" for example persons that is dissabled in one way or another, they should still have the same rights as everyone else tho.

in the theory of evolution, where are the cross-link species?? the missing link?? there have been "missing links discovered" like the so-called Lucy skeleton. but, there great skeptism against its validity to the point where the bones could not even be that of an ape or human. there are examples of species adapting, but there has not been one example observed or discovered of an animal jumping species.

im going to throw out the creationist view, i know everyone doesnt believe the bible, but creationism can be proven scientifically valid. adam and eve were created perfect. they had a perfect DNA code, and there was a moisture firmament above the earth. it never rained, but water came in through streams, and great fountains under the earth. under this firmament, they were protected from the rays of the sun, and the oxygen density was much higher than todays. and so, that is why in the bible, most of the early people lived several hundred years. adam lived to over 900 years old and noah and all in between.

but, being forced to reproduce between brother and sister, the DNA code became more and more flawed. and then after noah's flood, when this firmament over the earth came down and all the springs under the earth burst forth, the oxygen density became less dense, the sun now came through the atmosphere stronger. all this, causes mutations. so now, our life expectancy has dropped from several hundred years, to less than a 100.

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well yes true that if everyone was homosexual we would have a problem, that is not the case tho.

then it is not natural. if u cant reproduce, its not natural. show me a case where two animals have had homosexual relations for their entire lives.

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animals do it, isnt it natural then? that single thing is proof enough for me.

animals dont do it. show one case that would prove its natural. now show me dozens, because one incident doesnt mean the entire animal kingdom is doing the same thing.
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Originally posted by smokeape They can't merge for the same reason giraffes and hippos don't mate: they're not in anyway alike. GTF outta here if you think diverse religions can merge into a single one. That's just f*cking insane. [[[smoke]]]

Jesus was an Arab jew. You praise an arab

HHAHAHAHAHAHA

inm fact... he was probably palestinian decendent since he was from Nazareth

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Jesus was an Arab jew. You praise an arab HHAHAHAHAHAHA inm fact... he was probably palestinian decendent since he was from Nazareth

um, no he was 100% hebrew. his genealogy is in the book of luke. from jesus, all the way down to adam.

Luke 3:

23Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
the son of Heli, 24the son of Matthat,
the son of Levi, the son of Melki,
the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph,
25the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos,
the son of Nahum, the son of Esli,
the son of Naggai, 26the son of Maath,
the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein,
the son of Josech, the son of Joda,
27the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa,
the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel,
the son of Neri, 28the son of Melki,
the son of Addi, the son of Cosam,
the son of Elmadam, the son of Er,
29the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer,
the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat,
the son of Levi, 30the son of Simeon,
the son of Judah, the son of Joseph,
the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim,
31the son of Melea, the son of Menna,
the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan,
the son of David, 32the son of Jesse,
the son of Obed, the son of Boaz,
the son of Salmon,[d] the son of Nahshon,
33the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram,[e]
the son of Hezron, the son of Perez,
the son of Judah, 34the son of Jacob,
the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham,
the son of Terah, the son of Nahor,
35the son of Serug, the son of Reu,
the son of Peleg, the son of Eber,
the son of Shelah, 36the son of Cainan,
the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem,
the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,
37the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch,
the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,
the son of Kenan, 38the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: um, no he was 100% hebrew. his genealogy is in the book of luke. from jesus, all the way down to adam.

Where did the hebrews or isrealites come from?? You are right...he may not be arab, but he was middle eastern. I still think arabs and modern day middle eastern people are desendents of either israelites caanatiesm arabs or persians.

either way. we came fromthe same tribes... and jesus was probably was closer to arab than any other tribe. He probably looked arab too.



http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/25/face.jesus/

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Originally posted by Cyrus King inm fact... he was probably palestinian decendent since he was from Nazareth

Judean decedent that is what he was…Nazareth is a Judean city, it stood on the territory of the Judean kingdom, has nothing to do with Palestine or even with the Phlestinian people who used to live in the area of the Gaza strip about 1000 years before the birth of Jesus.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King ... and jesus was probably was closer to arab than any other tribe. He probably looked arab too.

Jesus was Jewish\Judean end of story.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Where did the hebrews or isrealites come from?? You are right...he may not be arab, but he was middle eastern. I still think arabs and modern day middle eastern people are desendents of either israelites caanatiesm arabs or persians. either way. we came fromthe same tribes... and jesus was probably was closer to arab than any other tribe. He probably looked arab too.

i dont believe there was arabs until the rise of islam. in jesus's days, it was persians, romans, greeks, egyptians, hebrews,etc.

in the days of abraham, it was tribes. races, i dont think existed then, because of how early it still was.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: i dont believe there was arabs until the rise of islam. in jesus's days, it was persians, romans, greeks, egyptians, hebrews,etc. in the days of abraham, it was tribes. races, i dont think existed then, because of how early it still was.

They existed in Saudia Arabia, there were almost no arabs in Judea back in those days…

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